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Post by zcr57 on May 10, 2011 9:21:58 GMT -5
And it does not take much to figure out, that if something nasty ever DOES happen, prime candidate #1 for the perpetrator will be Bradley - he looked quite a bit in that video of wanting to throw his bat in the direction of the HP ump Muchklinski. Guess Who just got dumped by the Mariners? ;D And umpires all over the land rejoice! I'm sure he'll re-surface somewhere, but for now, I'm sure everyone is happy.
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Post by zcr57 on May 10, 2011 16:24:45 GMT -5
Joe West with another ejection last night: atmlb.com/kC4dW8It's hard to tell whether or not the ball was tipped into the glove. Larry Bowa must not have any love lost for West either: atmlb.com/jjl5H4IMO, West baited Gardenhire into that argument. In the 2nd clip, you can see him say "Don't cross that line." Seems like he was daring Gardenhire to go out there and argue with him.
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Post by JugglingReferee on May 10, 2011 17:16:56 GMT -5
Mike DiMuro makes a tough call on a catch/no catch in the PIT-LAD game, and then tosses Juan Uribe and Don Mattingly: atmlb.com/iMSkZyThat was a really tough call for DiMuro. It LOOKS like Tabata made a clean catch from the last replay they showed, but it could've gone either way. DiMuro would've looked better if he asked for help. Why doesn't MLB put two umpire in the outfield for regular season games? Certainly they could even go in LC and RC fields without getting in the way.
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Post by cj on May 10, 2011 17:24:53 GMT -5
Mike DiMuro makes a tough call on a catch/no catch in the PIT-LAD game, and then tosses Juan Uribe and Don Mattingly: atmlb.com/iMSkZyThat was a really tough call for DiMuro. It LOOKS like Tabata made a clean catch from the last replay they showed, but it could've gone either way. DiMuro would've looked better if he asked for help. Why doesn't MLB put two umpire in the outfield for regular season games? Certainly they could even go in LC and RC fields without getting in the way. Some of the worst calls in history have been made in lcs and/or the world series where they use six umpires. They had six umpires that day in the Bronx when that little pos reached over the railing preventing Terasco from making a rather routine catch against the right field wall. Richie Garcia didn't see it because he was too close. A half competent first base umpire would have seen it. On the first play of the 2007 playoffs, Johnny Damon of the Yankees hit a home run that curled around the right field foul pole. The right field umpire ruled it a foul ball; it took the home plate umpire Bruce Froemming to correct the mis-call. Then we had the Phil Cuzzi situation two years ago when he was right on the left field foul line and didn't see the Twins player had hit a fair ball. More is not necessarily better. We have seen that quite clearly in the NHL where the officiating has gone down hill after they added a second referee. Far too many ticky tack calls (see last week in Vancouver when Tim Peel made an absolutely horrific call in overtime which led to the winning goal against Nashville. No true hockey fan who saw that idiocy thought it was a good call, especially in overtime). Four umpires are sufficient to umpire a major league baseball game; as a matter of fact given my druthers, I wouldn't put the two spare umpires onto the field during the baseball playoffs. Let them dress and ride the bike in the umpire's dressing room or whatever and if somebody gets hurt or ill, they step in and you never go below four umpires. In the same way, it would be idiotic to add another official to the NFL. They have the field covered as it is and if every so often a call is missed, better that than getting in the way.
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Post by nyasablue on May 10, 2011 22:56:22 GMT -5
Why doesn't MLB put two umpire in the outfield for regular season games? Certainly they could even go in LC and RC fields without getting in the way. Some of the worst calls in history have been made in lcs and/or the world series where they use six umpires. They had six umpires that day in the Bronx when that little pos reached over the railing preventing Terasco from making a rather routine catch against the right field wall. Richie Garcia didn't see it because he was too close. A half competent first base umpire would have seen it. On the first play of the 2007 playoffs, Johnny Damon of the Yankees hit a home run that curled around the right field foul pole. The right field umpire ruled it a foul ball; it took the home plate umpire Bruce Froemming to correct the mis-call. Then we had the Phil Cuzzi situation two years ago when he was right on the left field foul line and didn't see the Twins player had hit a fair ball. More is not necessarily better. We have seen that quite clearly in the NHL where the officiating has gone down hill after they added a second referee. Far too many ticky tack calls (see last week in Vancouver when Tim Peel made an absolutely horrific call in overtime which led to the winning goal against Nashville. No true hockey fan who saw that idiocy thought it was a good call, especially in overtime). Four umpires are sufficient to umpire a major league baseball game; as a matter of fact given my druthers, I wouldn't put the two spare umpires onto the field during the baseball playoffs. Let them dress and ride the bike in the umpire's dressing room or whatever and if somebody gets hurt or ill, they step in and you never go below four umpires. In the same way, it would be idiotic to add another official to the NFL. They have the field covered as it is and if every so often a call is missed, better that than getting in the way. What is interesting is that when baseball first started using six umpires for the WS(1947, btw), the two outfield umps were sometimes relatively new umps, and they never rotated around to work the 'normal' umpiring positions. The 1964 WS was the first one where all six umps rotated through, and got a chance to work the plate.
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Post by FredFan7 on May 10, 2011 23:04:02 GMT -5
Why doesn't MLB put two umpire in the outfield for regular season games? Certainly they could even go in LC and RC fields without getting in the way. $$$$$$$$$ 17 crews x2 is too much money for MLB. I'm almost positive this play will be reviewable some point soon.
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Post by FredFan7 on May 10, 2011 23:12:18 GMT -5
Joe West with another ejection last night: atmlb.com/kC4dW8It's hard to tell whether or not the ball was tipped into the glove. Larry Bowa must not have any love lost for West either: atmlb.com/jjl5H4IMO, West baited Gardenhire into that argument. In the 2nd clip, you can see him say "Don't cross that line." Seems like he was daring Gardenhire to go out there and argue with him. Larry Bowa was an Earl Weaver wanna be when he was managing so I don't put much stock into his opinions about umpires. West was right there. Foul tip is his call all the way. It is the same as arguing balls and strikes. He calmly signaled foul tip. Valencia was upset but West did not bait Valencia - didn't even take his mask off. West put up the stop sign, told Gardenhire he made the foul tip call, there is nothing to argue about, warned Gardenhire to desist, then tossed. There was no laughing, no sneering, no screaming, and no attempts to show up on West's part. I'm not a Joe West apologist, but I don't think he did anything wrong.
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Post by FredFan7 on May 10, 2011 23:40:56 GMT -5
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Post by cball1985 on May 11, 2011 16:13:09 GMT -5
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Post by nyasablue on May 11, 2011 21:06:26 GMT -5
sometimes its the ones that come close that really sting Me - all that happened to me yesterday was taking one directly right into my sternum, and not much happened outside of not being able to BREATHE for a couple of seconds...... And thats WITH decent CP --- will never understand why some idiots never wear one for FP.....
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Post by zcr57 on May 11, 2011 21:56:29 GMT -5
Not sure why Cabrera was arguing there. The pitch was in the zone and as the announcers said, Carapazza had a big strike zone all day.
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Post by howard63 on May 12, 2011 10:24:20 GMT -5
Carapazza was absolutely right to run Cabrera. If Miguel had said his peace and kept moving, and skipped the gestures, he likely would have been fine. By the way, that looked like a pretty good pitch.
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Post by JAYJAYSTRIPES on May 13, 2011 14:17:27 GMT -5
Carapazza's strike zone had more ripples in it than the Pacific Ocean at high tide. It appeared the pitchers on both teams were having problems with his strike zone, if you looked at their gestures and body language....Cabrera may have said something, but he gestured up and down as if to say where is it? This was West's crew? Figures!
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Post by FredFan7 on May 14, 2011 10:06:59 GMT -5
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Post by zcr57 on May 14, 2011 17:04:36 GMT -5
Great job by O'Nora. That could've gotten ugly. I have no idea why Weeks was so upset. That was a baseball play and didn't seem unnecessary or excessive at all, IMO.
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