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Post by mike on Jan 19, 2013 10:24:30 GMT -5
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Post by nyasablue on Jan 19, 2013 12:02:30 GMT -5
Always found it interesting that when Earl was inducted into Cooperstown, he went out of his way to give the umpires a little respect.
RIP Oil - may you find when you get to heaven, that those making final judgement on you are NOT umpires.
This deserves another look in memoriam today:
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Post by cj on Jan 19, 2013 15:47:42 GMT -5
I wonder if Earl and Bill Haller ever exchanged birthday greetings after that?
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Post by nyasablue on Jan 19, 2013 16:10:39 GMT -5
I wonder if Earl and Bill Haller ever exchanged birthday greetings after that? Yeah...sure...just like he did with Luciano...Springstead....Kaiser...and about a dozen other AL umpires from the 70's... |
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Post by cj on Jan 19, 2013 16:27:33 GMT -5
I may be mistaken but I think Bill Haller was never to be allowed to umpire another Weaver game after that incident. Now can you imagine that happening in the NFL? Let's say Walt Coleman makes a controversial call against the Oakland Raiders perhaps costing them a playoff game. Do you actually think the NFL wuld ban Coleman from ever working another Oakland Raider game. Nah, couldn't happen.
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Post by cj on Jan 19, 2013 16:29:21 GMT -5
I wonder if Earl and Bill Haller ever exchanged birthday greetings after that? Yeah...sure...just like he did with Luciano...Springstead....Kaiser...and about a dozen other AL umpires from the 70's... I would have loved to see Earl in a baseball world where there were no NO or AL umpires atg the time and him trying to pull that on Al Barlick...or Jocko Conland....or Augie Donatelli. Would have been very interesting! |
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 19, 2013 20:41:38 GMT -5
Luciano let his mouth get ahead of his brain one time saying he didn't care who won the AL, "As long as it wasn't Baltimore," making a joke about his dislike for Weaver. Weaver had a snit and Luciano didn't work Baltimore games for about two years. His last season in the majors ('79) he got assigned a Baltimore game.....and threw Weaver out.
Bill Haller's brother was catching for the Tigers in the early '70s. Weaver said that Haller shouldn't umpire any Tigers games because the umpire could be biased. While this probably was best for the league, Haller was resentful that Weaver intimated that he was biased. Haller actually ended up ejecting Weaver more that Luciano. Haller didn't like Weaver and the feeling was mutual.
The NL umpires back in the day had to deal with Leo Durocher, who was about as abusive as Weaver; however in the 70s, the AL umpires had to deal with Weaver, Billy Martin, Dick Williams, and Ralph Houk. The 70s was quite a noisy decade for AL umpires!
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Post by cj on Jan 19, 2013 20:47:11 GMT -5
Luciano let his mouth get ahead of his brain one time saying he didn't care who won the AL, "As long as it wasn't Baltimore," making a joke about his dislike for Weaver. Weaver had a snit and Luciano didn't work Baltimore games for about two years. His last season in the majors ('79) he got assigned a Baltimore game.....and threw Weaver out. Bill Haller's brother was catching for the Tigers in the early '70s. Weaver said that Haller shouldn't umpire any Tigers games because the umpire could be biased. While this probably was best for the league, Haller was resentful that Weaver intimated that he was biased. Haller actually ended up ejecting Weaver more that Luciano. Haller didn't like Weaver and the feeling was mutual. The NL umpires back in the day had to deal with Leo Durocher, who was about as abusive as Weaver; however in the 70s, the AL umpires had to deal with Weaver, Billy Martin, Dick Williams, and Ralph Houk. The 70s was quite a noisy decade for AL umpires! ...and when Houk lost it, he lost it! (although Conlan and Durocher got into a shin kicking thing one time). |
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Post by nyasablue on Jan 19, 2013 20:53:08 GMT -5
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Post by nyasablue on Jan 19, 2013 21:00:16 GMT -5
I may be mistaken but I think Bill Haller was never to be allowed to umpire another Weaver game after that incident. Now can you imagine that happening in the NFL? Let's say Walt Coleman makes a controversial call against the Oakland Raiders perhaps costing them a playoff game. Do you actually think the NFL wuld ban Coleman from ever working another Oakland Raider game. Nah, couldn't happen. Well this was right after Luciano retired, so I guess the AL needed to put SOMEONE on the 'Weaver s**t list'  Seriously, though, if the AL had pulled every ump who had more than a little problem with off Oriole games, they would have had to borrow some guys from the NL to work them, and then after using all of them up, maybe Japan.... |
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 19, 2013 21:05:42 GMT -5
Steve Palermo and Earl Weaver got into some real bumping, beaking, cuss fights in the day and in the early 80s, Palermo was pulled of Baltimore games.
Haller never got pulled off of Weaver's games.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 19, 2013 21:08:10 GMT -5
In the photo that is Marty Springstead giving the beak to Weaver. |
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Post by nyasablue on Jan 19, 2013 22:28:25 GMT -5
Luciano let his mouth get ahead of his brain one time saying he didn't care who won the AL, "As long as it wasn't Baltimore," making a joke about his dislike for Weaver. Weaver had a snit and Luciano didn't work Baltimore games for about two years. His last season in the majors ('79) he got assigned a Baltimore game.....and threw Weaver out. Bill Haller's brother was catching for the Tigers in the early '70s. Weaver said that Haller shouldn't umpire any Tigers games because the umpire could be biased. While this probably was best for the league, Haller was resentful that Weaver intimated that he was biased. Haller actually ended up ejecting Weaver more that Luciano. Haller didn't like Weaver and the feeling was mutual. The NL umpires back in the day had to deal with Leo Durocher, who was about as abusive as Weaver; however in the 70s, the AL umpires had to deal with Weaver, Billy Martin, Dick Williams, and Ralph Houk. The 70s was quite a noisy decade for AL umpires! About the only one the NL guys had to deal with was Mauch when he drifted in and out of the league. Also Lucchesi when he managed the Phillies for a while there - although he also did time in the AL. Otherwise they had relatively mild guys like Alston...Berra for a while there...I mean, these guys could yell, but Earl, Billy, Williams, Ralphie - they were fighters! |
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Post by nyasablue on Jan 19, 2013 23:29:21 GMT -5
And RIP to Stan The Man Musial - who, ironically for today, never, ever got ejected from a game.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 24, 2013 21:28:46 GMT -5
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