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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 15, 2014 18:09:30 GMT -5
What crews did you see? What did you think of them?
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 16, 2014 13:07:56 GMT -5
Watching Torbert's crew work in the snow at Soldier Field.
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Post by cball1985 on Nov 16, 2014 13:18:27 GMT -5
Bryan Neale is working with Bill Leavy in Kansas City.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 16, 2014 13:29:58 GMT -5
Confusing play in Chicago. Jay Cutler throws an empty-hands pass. The officials hit the whistle and ruled an incomplete pass. The Vikings challenged the play. Referee Ron Torbert ruled that the play was a fumble, but since there was “no immediate action” after the fumble, the ball stayed with the Bears. But wait, there’s more. After the Vikings threw the challenge flag, Cutler berated the officials, drawing an unsportsmanlike conduct flag. So the Bears kept the ball, minus 15-yards.
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 16, 2014 14:00:25 GMT -5
Substitutions:
U92 Bryan Neale to Bill Leavy’s crew (SEA at KC)
SJ73 Joe Larrew to Craig Wrolstad’s crew (CIN at NO)
HL74 Derick Bowers to Gene Steratore’s crew (SF at NYG)
LJ107 Ron Marinucci to Tony Corrente’s crew (DEN at STL)
BJ17 Steve Patrick to Brad Allen’s crew (PIT at TEN on MNF)
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Post by theglenn on Nov 16, 2014 14:28:47 GMT -5
Confusing play in Chicago. Jay Cutler throws an empty-hands pass. The officials hit the whistle and ruled an incomplete pass. The Vikings challenged the play. Referee Ron Torbert ruled that the play was a fumble, but since there was “no immediate action” after the fumble, the ball stayed with the Bears. But wait, there’s more. After the Vikings threw the challenge flag, Cutler berated the officials, drawing an unsportsmanlike conduct flag. So the Bears kept the ball, minus 15-yards. Very confusing...but just more inconsistency. If whistle didn't blow what difference does it make? |
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 16, 2014 15:08:59 GMT -5
How is this inconsistent? If there is no clear, immediate recovery, then Vikings cannot get the ball.
Whistle by itself is irrelevant, it is just a signal that the incomplete call has already been made.
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Post by howard63 on Nov 16, 2014 15:22:33 GMT -5
Ricardo Lockett of Seattle ejected by Bill Leavy's crew for throwing a punch at a Kansas City player following a punt return. Lockett received a little bit of shove at the end of the play, but IMO not enough for him to come up swinging.
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Post by mike on Nov 16, 2014 15:54:52 GMT -5
Great job by Weatherford to nail it quickly and accurately
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Post by russ on Nov 16, 2014 16:16:32 GMT -5
Great call by Keith Ferguson on the punt by the Chiefs to rule that both Chiefs players stayed out of the endzone when trying to down the ball. It looked like they both easily could have, but replay showed Ferguson nailed the call.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 16, 2014 16:25:54 GMT -5
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Post by zcr57 on Nov 16, 2014 17:42:19 GMT -5
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Post by theglenn on Nov 16, 2014 18:40:45 GMT -5
How is this inconsistent? If there is no clear, immediate recovery, then Vikings cannot get the ball. Whistle by itself is irrelevant, it is just a signal that the incomplete call has already been made. It was perfectly clear. And what is "immediate"? Many, MANY recoveries have been made after a few seconds. And many plays have been whistled dead and "non-reviewable" by inadvertent whistles. |
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Post by ak482 on Nov 16, 2014 18:47:06 GMT -5
Just saw something you rarely see: the first touch rule does NOT mean the ball is dead on a punt. Cardinals unable to successfully down the ball inside the Lions 5, so Lions PR Jeremy Ross wisely picks up the ball and runs into Cardinal territory. Even if Ross had fumbled and the Cardinals recovered, the Lions would have maintained possession (though I assume at the first touch point?) Kudos to Boger's crew (stop me: how often do I say that) for letting the play go.
UPDATE: Cardinals challenge the play and get it overturned saying that the player downing it maintained possession. Disagree with the ruling on replay, don't think the Cardinals player maintained possession.
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Post by zcr57 on Nov 16, 2014 18:51:58 GMT -5
Just saw something you rarely see: the first touch rule does NOT mean the ball is dead on a punt. Cardinals unable to successfully down the ball inside the Lions 5, so Lions PR Jeremy Ross wisely picks up the ball and runs into Cardinal territory. Even if Ross had fumbled and the Cardinals recovered, the Lions would have maintained possession (though I assume at the first touch point?) Kudos to Boger's crew (stop me: how often do I say that) for letting the play go. And then Boger with a tough review that brought it back to the 1 yard line. Not sure there was enough evidence to overturn or not. |
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