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Post by sullim4 on Nov 24, 2015 9:56:31 GMT -5
Something's got to be done... the current state of NFL officiating is abysmal. I don't know if it's the rules getting more complex, the increased scrutiny of better replay technology/social media, a lack of leadership at the top by Blandino, or some combination thereof.
There were several major errors in this game and frankly I was surprised that Gene didn't own up to anything in that pool report after the game. He's ultimately responsible for his crew, it is OK to admit it when you have a bad game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 10:05:02 GMT -5
Steratore's explanation of the runner giving himself up in the field of play on the last play of the game is a real chicken sh't answer. I know he doesn't want to throw walker under the bus but there's no way a runner would give himself up in the field of play in that situation. The only times I know a runner would give himself up in the field of play is the qb sliding and a runner sliding to avoid stopping the clock.
Blandino is and will always be an idiot. I've given him enough time to form an opinion of him. McNally was a pioneer in officiating, Seeman did a good job, Mike P advanced officiating and made it transparent even if he wasn't always popular. What has dumb Dino done other than make it impossible for a receiver to make a catch?
I try to give the benefit of the doubt to officials and most do a good job but whoever gets the super bowl likely wouldn't have gotten it 20 or 30 years ago when officiating was much better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2015 12:04:38 GMT -5
Just curious from the article but why would there e more pressure to work a MNF game than SNF or TNF? Aren't all games the same whether it's between two good teams or two bad teams???
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 24, 2015 12:31:19 GMT -5
I don't think I said more pressure, but there is more scrutiny. SNF has higher ratings, but storylines merge with the afternoon games. MNF, and to a lesser extent TNF, exists in isolation, which invites higher scrutiny. Put it another way, if the timeout fiasco in SEA-DAL (in a matter of speaking, also an inadvertent whistle) happens on MNF, it is a much, much bigger story, even though the underlying issue is just as bad.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 24, 2015 13:43:57 GMT -5
A member of the NFLRA talks to a reporter. www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/11/24/monday-night-football-officials/Gkecqt95j5tpE30ntKHaJM/story.html 1. Jim Quirk, executive director of the NFLRA, must be livid as a member of the union breaks ranks. 2. Who spoke? "Dozens" of games? Either this is an official with less than three years experience or a former on field official who had a short career. Or this is a red herring to disguise the source. 3. This game reminds me of a game in 1998 (or 2002?) where the NFL admitted a whopping amount of errors on a MNF game.
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Post by teo on Nov 24, 2015 14:32:31 GMT -5
It's sad, I feel bad for all the officials, especially Steratore, which I still think is one of the best active referees.
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Post by tj888 on Nov 24, 2015 14:44:21 GMT -5
Steratore is an excellent referee (the best in my opinion) and he has a good crew as well. However, the BIG problem is LJ Ed Walker. He was absolutely horrible all night (2 of his calls were overturned by reply within 3 plays apart and the clock winding error as well). This is the problem that the Dean Blandino itself has created and that is to go with younger officials and forcing old ones to retire. Although Mark Baltz (who was forced to retire and now is working high school football) might not be in as good of a shape as Ed Walker is, would he make the same mistakes? I doubt so. Also, I absolutely cannot understand why Blandino is not hiring enough officials from the SEC or veterans with more BCS Bowl Game experience. As these new officials simply aren't doing a good job (except for a few excellent ones).
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Post by cj on Nov 24, 2015 16:41:27 GMT -5
Wasn't it the HL who messed up the last call?
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Post by js on Nov 24, 2015 18:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 10:10:31 GMT -5
Gene should have gone up to Ed walker after the last play before leaving the field to ask why he ruled the player on bounds. Walker probably gives his explanation which I am sure gene would have said that's the college rule. That way steratore could have announced the runner out of bounds and that there was 2 seconds left.
Once again someone wearing 123 having officiating problems.
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Post by Brent on Nov 25, 2015 12:12:24 GMT -5
You know, Mike P answered me on twitter a couple of years ago, that if you are overturned on replay it is not a downgrade as ultimately the play was called correctly. Personally, I think it should still be a downgrade.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 25, 2015 12:37:18 GMT -5
You know, Mike P answered me on twitter a couple of years ago, that if you are overturned on replay it is not a downgrade as ultimately the play was called correctly. Personally, I think it should still be a downgrade. I think the official can receive criticism or a downgrade on a play if they are out of position, use improper mechanics, or use NCAA judgement on a call instead of NFL judgement. Sometimes an official makes the right call but gets a ding if they are not in the proper position and they happen to get lucky. But, if the official does everything right, but misses a bang-bang call that replay corrects, I respectfully disagree with a downgrade.
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 25, 2015 15:56:32 GMT -5
Reversals in replay are not proof an official erred. We get lulled into the popular notion of "correcting mistakes." It is more accurate to characterize replay as an extra official. Officiating in any sport is a game of angles, and if you are in the correct position, you might not have the angle that has the critical piece of evidence. That said, there is discretion for the grader to ding an official whose call is reviewed if there is evidence that he/she was remiss in some fashion
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2015 16:21:03 GMT -5
Walker needs to be suspended for a game. If they suspended Vernatchi for a game so should Walker. Since no one else bothered to ask Walker his end call and didn't change it then the crew needs to be fined or downgraded.
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Post by cj on Nov 25, 2015 17:58:09 GMT -5
They won't suspend anybody. The article by Scott Green hit a raw nerve and sometimes after gettng ripped, people lay low.
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