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Post by cball1985 on Apr 11, 2011 12:24:18 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 11, 2011 13:17:58 GMT -5
Congratulations and best wishes to all officials assigned.
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Post by mike on Apr 11, 2011 13:22:35 GMT -5
this is also Ryan Galloway's first postseason appearance IIRC
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Post by zcr57 on Apr 11, 2011 13:59:00 GMT -5
I like the way MLB and the NHL are transparent with their postseason officiating assignments. I'm not sure why the other 2 leagues are so secretive about it. I know the NBA posts assignments the morning of the games, but it would be nice to know a little more in advance.
Congrats and good luck to all.
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Post by tj on Apr 11, 2011 14:26:36 GMT -5
Kozari made it last year.
Notable veteran omissions:
Refs: 3-Mike Leggo, 8-Dave Jackson, 21-Don Van Massenhoven
Lines: 47-Dan Schachte, 80-Thor Nelson, 88-Mike Cvik
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Post by impz45 on Apr 11, 2011 14:58:03 GMT -5
I believe this is the 3rd year in a row Dan Schachte ha smissed....Dave Jackson is coming off a serioius knee injury....Do Van Massenhoven has been a staple for about 10 years....I wonder if it was injury related.
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Post by impz45 on Apr 11, 2011 15:00:17 GMT -5
This is also I believe Brian Pochmara's first assignemnt....He is going to be a great one down the line....
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Post by tj on Apr 11, 2011 15:16:24 GMT -5
Pochmara made the playoffs last year - in only his second full year. I agree that he's one to watch.
You're right that Jackson and Van Massenhoven missed the playoffs last year due to injuries. Both worked full seasons this year, but you have to wonder if they "lost a step."
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Post by cball1985 on Apr 11, 2011 16:07:43 GMT -5
In regards to Jackson and Leggo they worked a game a few weeks ago (Dal @ LA) and the game ended with no teams having a power play the entire game. The only penalties were matching roughing minors called in the second period. They missed a LA high stick to the face of a Dallas player which drew blood, and a Dallas player elbowed an LA player in the head which went uncalled.
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Post by cj on Apr 12, 2011 0:47:00 GMT -5
In regards to Jackson and Leggo they worked a game a few weeks ago (Dal @ LA) and the game ended with no teams having a power play the entire game. The only penalties were matching roughing minors called in the second period. They missed a LA high stick to the face of a Dallas player which drew blood, and a Dallas player elbowed an LA player in the head which went uncalled. I don't know how big a hockey fan you are but we are seeing more and more games with hardly any penalties. This past Saturday's NYR-NJD game that helped propel NY into the playoffs was exactly the same, only two coincidental minor penalties in the second period. A couple of weeks ago, the Flyers came into MSG and for the first time in years (perhaps centuries) did not have a single penalty called against them. I know it's a matter of taste, but I thought they went much too far over board after the lock out calling far too many nonsensical ticky tack penalties under the guise of a crack down on obstruction. It made for a game that was very hard to enjoy although the little Napoleon running the NHL, who knows nothing about the sport and tradition, claimed that by calling all those penalties there would be more power plays and more goals. And the league was especially. on the officials' case to make sure that late penalties were called as they became very sensitive to the charge that referees swallowed their whistles late in the game (a charge that was very true and in my opinion proper, games should not be decided by the officials on some nonsensical marginal penalty late in a game). Denis Potvin was commenting during that first year back on a Montreal-Florida game when a penalty was called in overtime behind the net when a player with nobody even near him fell down. Potvin commented that he thought referees were being instructed to make sure late in games and in overtime if there's any doubt to make the call whereas for eons in the NHL the referees were taught if there's any question late in a game, to err on the side of not making the call and to try to let the players, not the referee, decide the game. We can have all the philosophical arguments we want, that was the accepted way NHL games should be called but then again the best NHL officiating was done under the one referee system where you had consistency at both ends of the ice, not what we have now where a close by referee will let some marginal infraction go and the butt insky from centre ice feels compelled to make the call. You do not need two referees to properly adjudicate an ice hockey match, especially now that their most important calls, namely goal or no goal, are handled by the war room in Toronto. I just can't imagine how Frank Udvari, Red Storey, Eddie Powers, Art Skov, Bill Friday, Bruce Hood, Ron Wicks, Wally Harris, Bob Myers, Ron Hoggarth, Dave Newell would have been able to work with some young referee trying to make a name for himself contradicitng their calls. Soccer tried the same thing and came to the conclusion the best way of refereeing was with one referee for exactly that same reason. In ay event, they can claim all they want that the reason there are fewer penalties being called is the players have adjusted to the new standard of officiating. If you watch the games closely, that is utter nonsense. And by allowing the players to play the game, the games are far more fun to watch as nothing disrupts the flow of a game more than constant stoppages to call ticky tack penalties. JMHO
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Post by impz45 on Apr 13, 2011 22:53:23 GMT -5
Pochmara had a tough goal call on Washington'/Ovechkin's tying goal on regulation. It appeared they allowed Instant Replay make the call weather goal was on stantion prior to puck going in....Right call was made Goal....even though I am a Ranger Fan....Good communication amongst four On-Ice Offials and War Room in Toronto.
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Post by cj on Apr 14, 2011 0:16:06 GMT -5
Did he rule goal on the ice? This question of the whistle stopping the play is one of the murkiest parts of the NHL review procedure and perhaps causes the most controversy (somewhat like the old rules in the NFL regarding down by contact)....we have learned, or so it has been claimed, that a play ends when the puck is out of sight of the referee and he declares it over whether he physically blows the whistle or not...the referee can tell the IR staff in Toronto and saw the play and stopped the play before the puck had entered the net...it's not if the whistle physically blew but whether the referee declared the play over in his mind (tough to really know what was in the referee's mind)...if indeed he ruled it a goal on the ice, the only thing the NHL IR staff could look at is whether the net had come off the peg...it's much less lear if he says he intended to blow the whistle and sometimes they have allowed a goal when it is clear it went into the net long before he could have stopped the play, other times they have bent and said there is no conclusive proof the puck went into the net before the referee intended to stop play. Have to take the referee's word he saw the puk in the net before stopping the play.
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Post by cj on Apr 18, 2011 7:51:03 GMT -5
Toughest call of the whole day yesterday was the Rangers apparent goal at the end of the second period...NBC caused the difficulty because the clock shown on the scoreboard is not the official clock and was obviously off by a fraction of a second.....the wide angle shot clearly shows the puck entered the net after the green light, indicating the end of the period, had come on.
I think though the NHL can take a lesson from basketball and install green (can't do it the same way the NBA does with red lights, besides red lights signify a goal) strobe lights in the frame of the goal...then we wouldn't have these arguments.
Good job NHL video review...you got it right!
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Post by tj on Apr 18, 2011 8:00:19 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see if the NHL comes down on Rafi Torres of Vancouver again (first game after coming off of a suspension). He elbowed Seabrook fairly viciously last night, but only got called for 2 for interference (Brad Watson made the call). Hawks fans wanted a major as did the bench. Hawks scored on the PP anyway, but given that Torres is a repeat offender, it'll be interesting to see if the league does anything.
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Post by cj on Apr 18, 2011 11:42:00 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see if the NHL comes down on Rafi Torres of Vancouver again (first game after coming off of a suspension). He elbowed Seabrook fairly viciously last night, but only got called for 2 for interference (Brad Watson made the call). Hawks fans wanted a major as did the bench. Hawks scored on the PP anyway, but given that Torres is a repeat offender, it'll be interesting to see if the league does anything. For pete's sake, it was a two minute minor penalty for interference...there was a referee a few feet away and a guy looking at it from centre ice and both saw it and both called a minor penalty for interference...it's not as if they missed the call and didn't see it....they saw it and called a minor penalty. There shouldn't be any supplementary discipline.
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