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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 15, 2010 9:29:48 GMT -5
Hi,
I'm looking for crew lists from the 1982-1990 seasons. If anyone has that information in "shareable" form (excel list, scanned document), send me a personal message.
Thanks!
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Post by jc on Jan 15, 2010 21:07:53 GMT -5
FF7
I lost most of my stuff (hard drive crash)- I do have a crew list once I find it...
Is there any way we can create a comprehensive list like was started on the home page of crews and games etc...
I would be more than happy to help...
We would need all involved and someone to compile the information...
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Post by Adam (Administrator) on Jan 15, 2010 21:50:54 GMT -5
jc,
I think that is a great idea and a great project to keep the message board active during the offseason. In my infinite amount of spare time (LOL), I have been trying to update the site to be more centered around easy retrieval of such stats (crews, playoff history, scheduling history, etc..), something which I don't even think the NFL officiating office has.
As you mention, this would have to be a community effort and all our famous posters could contribute at will. I will try to get the infrastructure setup and maybe we can allocate different members to manage different the data .
What does everyone think???
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Post by becky10 on Jan 15, 2010 22:02:47 GMT -5
jc, I think that is a great idea and a great project to keep the message board active during the offseason. In my infinite amount of spare time (LOL), I have been trying to update the site to be more centered around easy retrieval of such stats (crews, playoff history, scheduling history, etc..), something which I don't even think the NFL officiating office has. As you mention, this would have to be a community effort and all our famous posters could contribute at will. I will try to get the infrastructure setup and maybe we can allocate different members to manage different the data . What does everyone think??? Hi Adam, I like the Idea..... but I do not know much... I hope others will contribute. Becky
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Post by zcr57 on Jan 15, 2010 22:26:42 GMT -5
jc, I think that is a great idea and a great project to keep the message board active during the offseason. In my infinite amount of spare time (LOL), I have been trying to update the site to be more centered around easy retrieval of such stats (crews, playoff history, scheduling history, etc..), something which I don't even think the NFL officiating office has. As you mention, this would have to be a community effort and all our famous posters could contribute at will. I will try to get the infrastructure setup and maybe we can allocate different members to manage different the data . What does everyone think??? Sounds like a good idea to me, Adam. I'm taking a website design class this semester, so maybe I can come up with something and get credit for it...
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 15, 2010 22:42:33 GMT -5
I like the idea too. Here's a start - if anyone has it. Referee Magazine publishes the crew lists in every October issue (at least since I've been getting it). Of course my back issues got pitched in a move so I don't have them anymore. If anyone as back issues that might be a start. Or, Adam, you might want to work with the publishers at Referee for some research material (your request as administrator might help, plus you might trade some ad space for issues - if that's kosher).
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Post by becky10 on Jan 15, 2010 22:57:04 GMT -5
I like the idea too. Here's a start - if anyone has it. Referee Magazine publishes the crew lists in every October issue (at least since I've been getting it). Of course my back issues got pitched in a move so I don't have them anymore. If anyone as back issues that might be a start. Or, Adam, you might want to work with the publishers at Referee for some research material (your request as administrator might help, plus you might trade some ad space for issues - if that's kosher). Hi FredFan7, Just wanted to say that I sent u a message to add me on facebook... Well that is if you would like too. On another note.. I do not want to put someone in a odd position. but Billump subscribes to Referee magazine. He is the one that sent me the one with R-85 on the front. Please do not be mad @ me Billump... Becky
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Post by jc on Jan 15, 2010 23:01:07 GMT -5
Could we ask Tim Millis at NFLRA for some assistance and maybe a blessing?
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 15, 2010 23:23:08 GMT -5
I believe there are some "people who know people" on this board and could help out on this project if they could keep it quiet and stay in the background and anonymous. If that is you reading this, please PM the administrators!
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Post by Damon on Jan 16, 2010 9:59:40 GMT -5
I think this is a great idea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2010 11:21:22 GMT -5
Becky - i am not mad at you - i do have most if not all referee magazines stored in a bin - plus i do have crew lists from many years - all in notebooks - i would be more than willing to provide as much info as possible.
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Post by becky10 on Jan 16, 2010 11:45:56 GMT -5
Becky - i am not mad at you - i do have most if not all referee magazines stored in a bin - plus i do have crew lists from many years - all in notebooks - i would be more than willing to provide as much info as possible. Yea!!!! I knew Billump would come thru for the BTFS site.... Becky
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Post by Damon on Jan 16, 2010 12:42:48 GMT -5
Becky - i am not mad at you - i do have most if not all referee magazines stored in a bin - plus i do have crew lists from many years - all in notebooks - i would be more than willing to provide as much info as possible. Good on you Bill!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2010 0:28:44 GMT -5
I don't have crew lists for 1982. However, I do have crew lists from 1983 onwards. If that's what you're interested in I will be more than happy to pass it along.
Here's the crew list for 1983 in no particular order. The official's uniform number is also given, if known.
Crew A R -- Fred Silva 7 U -- Tom Hensley 19 LJ -- Bob Beeks 59 HL -- Norm Kragseth BJ -- Pete Liske 21 FJ -- Don Orr 77 SJ -- Dave Parry 64
Crew B R -- Tom Dooley 6 U -- Dave Hamilton LJ -- Ron DeSouza HL -- Ed Marion BJ -- Banks Williams FJ -- Jack Vaughan SJ -- Dick Ferguson 87
Crew C R -- Dick Jorgensen 60 U -- Neil Gereb 50 LJ -- Dick McKenzie 41 HL -- Bob McLaughlin 108 BJ -- Roy Clymer 24 FJ -- Dick Dolack 31 SJ -- Dave Hawk 66
Crew D R -- Jerry Seeman 70 U -- Frank Sinkovitz 20 LJ -- Bama Glass 15 HL -- Leo Miles 35 BJ -- Paul Baetz 22 FJ -- Bill O'Brien 83 SJ -- Duwayne Gandy 62
Crew E R -- Red Cashion 43 U -- Art Demmas 78 LJ -- Vern Marshall 94 HL -- Liquori Hagerty 63 BJ -- Ben Tompkins 52 FJ -- Bob Wortman 84 SJ -- Nate Jones 97
Crew F R -- Gordon McCarter 48 U -- Ron Botchan 110 LJ -- Jack Fette 39 HL -- Tom Johnson 114 BJ -- J. W. Sanders 29 FJ -- Pat Mallette 82 SJ -- Dean Look 49
Crew G R -- Gene Barth 14 U -- Bob Boylston 101 LJ -- Jack Johnson 54 HL -- Burl Toler 37 BJ -- Jimmy Rosser 98 FJ -- Fritz Graf 34 SJ -- Gerry Austin 112
Crew H R -- Ben Dreith 12 U -- Tom Myers 10 LJ -- Bill Reynolds 53 HL -- Dale Williams 8 BJ -- Don Wedge 28 FJ -- Ron Spitler 119 SJ -- Ed Ward 79
Crew I R -- Pat Haggerty 40 U -- Hendi Ancich 115 LJ -- Walt Peters 44 HL -- Frank Glover 85 BJ -- Jim Poole 92 FJ -- Bob Lewis 18 SJ -- Dick Creed 61
Crew J R -- Jerry Markbreit 9 U -- Ed Fiffick 57 LJ -- Ben Montgomery 117 HL -- Dale Hamer 104 BJ -- Tom Kelleher 25 FJ -- Bill Stanley 91 SJ -- Merrill Douglas 102
Crew K R -- Jim Tunney 32 U -- John Leimbach 68 LJ -- Boyce Smith 3 HL -- Sid Semon 109 BJ -- Pat Knight 73 FJ -- Johnny Grier 23 SJ -- Gil Mace 90
Crew L R -- Bob McElwee 95 U -- Al Conway 27 LJ -- Carver Shannon 56 HL -- Earnie Frantz 111 BJ -- Ray Douglas 5 FJ -- Ed Merrifield 76 SJ -- Bob Rice 80
Crew M R -- Fred Wyant 11 U -- Dave Moss 88 LJ -- Wilson Gosier 4 HL -- Tony Veteri 36 BJ -- Dick Hantak 105 FJ -- Chuck McCallum 116 SJ -- Royal Cathcart 16
Crew N R -- Bob Frederic 71 U -- John Keck 67 LJ -- Dan Wilford 30 HL -- Jerry Bergman 17 BJ -- Bill Swanson 38 FJ -- Don Hakes 96 SJ -- Gary Lane 120
Crew O R -- Chuck Heberling 46 U -- Gordon Wells 89 LJ -- Dale Orem 51 HL -- Terry Gierke 72 BJ -- Al Jury FJ -- Charley Musser 55 SJ -- Bill Quinby 58
There were two swing officials in 1983. Ray Dodez 74 and Jim Kearney 107. Dodex subbed for LJ and HL. Kearney subbed for BJ, FJ and SJ.
I have a partial list of which crews worked what games during 1983. By no means is it complete, but if you want what I have let me know.
That's the 1983 crew list. If that's what you are looking for I can send the 1984 - 1990 crew lists.
If you need the 1982 crew lists I can probably dig up a partial list. I don't think it would be complete like the 1983 and onwards crew lists.
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Post by becky10 on Jan 20, 2010 1:45:59 GMT -5
I don't have crew lists for 1982. However, I do have crew lists from 1983 onwards. If that's what you're interested in I will be more than happy to pass it along. Hi Leatherhead, WOW... so you have 1983 & onward. I would like to have the crew lists from like 1989 thru 2009. Becky
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