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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 10, 2011 15:19:26 GMT -5
Hochuli's crew on the call tonight. Those of you who get NFLN be sure to post your observations!
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Post by russ on Nov 10, 2011 22:53:31 GMT -5
Hochuli just had a horrendous overturn of a touchdown. I have absolutley no idea what he was looking at and than of course had to show off by having a 1 minute explanation nobody understood. I have not been impressed with Hochuli at all this season. His long explanations are just unnecesary. It is almost like he is showing off his wide voacabulary and rules knowledge. It just kind of rubs me the wrong way.
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Post by russ on Nov 10, 2011 23:14:31 GMT -5
Very interesting call. San Diego punting 4th and 4. As the punt is in the air they call holding on Oakland. Hochuli rules first down San Diego because the penalty was committed on the line of scrimmage. Was this ruled correctly?
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Post by JugglingReferee on Nov 10, 2011 23:20:45 GMT -5
I think the right call was made on the TD. From the clips that I saw, B was OB when he touched the ball all before A had secure possession with 2 feet inbounds.
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Post by hank on Nov 10, 2011 23:21:58 GMT -5
What is interesting on the holding call on the 4th down punt is the FJ Wrolstad threw the flag not the LJ Hill.
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Post by zcr57 on Nov 10, 2011 23:35:21 GMT -5
I thought the right call was made on the touchdown review.
Like russ, I think Hochuli's verbosity is getting a little old. There's no need for him to give a speech that's the equivalent of a doctoral dissertation after every unusual review/penalty.
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Post by kirby on Nov 11, 2011 0:58:05 GMT -5
Very interesting call. San Diego punting 4th and 4. As the punt is in the air they call holding on Oakland. Hochuli rules first down San Diego because the penalty was committed on the line of scrimmage. Was this ruled correctly? If the foul took place at or behind the line of scrimmage then yes the ball stays with the kicking team after the penalty is enforced. |
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Post by kirby on Nov 11, 2011 1:00:52 GMT -5
What is interesting on the holding call on the 4th down punt is the FJ Wrolstad threw the flag not the LJ Hill. The FJ and SJ key the two widest eligible players. The LJ and HL key the backs or tackles. That might explain why Wrolstad threw the flag. |
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Post by bulldog6878 on Nov 11, 2011 6:41:58 GMT -5
Hochuli just had a horrendous overturn of a touchdown. I have absolutley no idea what he was looking at and than of course had to show off by having a 1 minute explanation nobody understood. I have not been impressed with Hochuli at all this season. His long explanations are just unnecesary. It is almost like he is showing off his wide voacabulary and rules knowledge. It just kind of rubs me the wrong way. What quarter did this occur? I did not start watching the game until sometime in the 3rd quarter. The score was 17-3 San Diego scored a few plays later and Oakland scored Bulldog |
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Post by russ on Nov 11, 2011 13:22:43 GMT -5
Hochuli just had a horrendous overturn of a touchdown. I have absolutley no idea what he was looking at and than of course had to show off by having a 1 minute explanation nobody understood. I have not been impressed with Hochuli at all this season. His long explanations are just unnecesary. It is almost like he is showing off his wide voacabulary and rules knowledge. It just kind of rubs me the wrong way. What quarter did this occur? I did not start watching the game until sometime in the 3rd quarter. The score was 17-3 San Diego scored a few plays later and Oakland scored Bulldog It was very late third quarter. There is no actual video of the play but they showed it on the game recap from NFL.com. The play is at about the 3:20 mark. Despite what you guys are saying, I am still not seeing were Hochuli comes up with this call, looks like a Touchdown to me. Even if Hochuli believes it was touching the deffender, whic I do not, There was not enough evidence for an overturn IMO. Maybe some clarification would be helpful since I didn't get it from Hochuli's 1 minute explanation. www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d823fee32/Week-10-Raiders-vs-Chargers-highlights |
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Post by hank on Nov 11, 2011 17:57:15 GMT -5
Also, it was Hochuli who reviewed this scoring play. I thought the RA (Sifferman) is responsible for reviewing all scoring plays not the on field referee. This is the first time I saw this occur this year.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 11, 2011 21:40:58 GMT -5
I think that the protocol is similar to the final two minutes of the game. The RA reviews the play, and if he seems something iffy, he'll buzz down for the referee to go under the hood.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2011 10:42:37 GMT -5
Make note: IF you DO NOT like an NFL Official than DO NOT watch his games... Please no more negativity... Hochuli needs to tone down all the explanations. If it is a complicated play, then an explanation is fine. But he doesn't have to turn a false start penalty into a college thesis. Yuck to McAulay getting all the top games. Heard the Big East had another officiating problem the other day... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2011 11:19:28 GMT -5
And just found out he is doing a thanksgiving day game. perhaps while he is kissing up to get assignments, he should be seeing why his Big East officials keep having controversial calls that cost teams games.
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Post by mike on Nov 12, 2011 11:25:43 GMT -5
I do not think it is out of place on this board to comment that by Ed Hochuli standards, Ed Hochuli is having a down year. Some of the best officials of all time such as Jerry Markbreit have admitted that some years where the announcers loved them their performance was not as strong as it had been. Hochuli is also approaching the age that other officials have started to regress such as Gerry Austin in his last years (even though he received playoff assignments, there definitely was some commentary wondering whether Gerry really was among the Top 12 R's). At this point of the season I really am not sure that I would give Ed Hochuli's crew a playoff appearance. As of today I would rank the Top 7 crews (in alphabetical order) as Anderson, Blakeman, Corrente, Green, McAulay, Morelli, and Parry and then I see Steratore and Leavy very close for that last spot. What makes this board so good is that many of the posters are knowledgeable about the game so when they have criticisms there is some rational basis (even if ultimately they have misinterpreted a rule) and not blind homerism for or against a team or official
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