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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 20, 2011 22:25:49 GMT -5
Ron Winter. Now you see why he carries a long lanyard. He can hold the whistle in his hand, yet swing his arms in full stride.
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Post by cj on Nov 20, 2011 22:26:43 GMT -5
It's a continuing action foul and offsets with the live foul....if the Giants had not committed a penalty on the play, it would have been enforced 15 yards from the point of the foul and Eagles ball first and 10 after the 15 yard mark off.....
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 20, 2011 22:53:48 GMT -5
SJ16, David Wyant, keeps the play boxed in:
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 20, 2011 23:03:39 GMT -5
Getty Images doesn't let me embed the photos, but click this link for close ups of Winter protecting himself on the bottom of the pile. bit.ly/uXOhcIbit.ly/tO3NVE
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 20, 2011 23:11:01 GMT -5
Greg Yette, BJ38:
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 20, 2011 23:11:35 GMT -5
Roy Ellison:
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 20, 2011 23:13:30 GMT -5
Ed Camp, HL134, calls a safety:
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 20, 2011 23:19:08 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 20, 2011 23:36:08 GMT -5
Mike Carey had to get really stern with the Giants and Eagles as there were several scuffles in the first quarter. The teams then calmed down.
I'd give Carey's crew a nice 3.9 today. Carey's crew had to work really hard to keep the lid on this one and they did a nice job.
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Post by cj on Nov 21, 2011 0:00:23 GMT -5
Listening to the Giants, they were a bit miffed that Carey did not give Eli Manning the Jerry Markbreit treatment of ignoring a retaliation after he was crushed and Carey went with off setting penalties. Did you guys see that?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2011 9:33:07 GMT -5
I think the officials were frantic to dig into the pile not only to determine possession, but to also rescue Winter! I agree with this. When the LJ and U can running in, it looked more like they were trying to get Ron than looking for the fumble, since that can be determined by replay in needed, Ron Winter isn't young anymore. And geez, two fumbles, two weeks, two refs taken out.
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 21, 2011 14:19:29 GMT -5
Getty Images doesn't let me inbed the photos, but click this link for close ups of Winter protecting himself on the bottom of the pile. bit.ly/uXOhcIbit.ly/tO3NVEYeesh! All he has are two hands to keep him from getting a faceful of cleats. As for the last post, replay cannot make the ruling on a fumble recovery when there is a pileup like that. The only time replay can make a ruling is if the recovery (and not the player who emerges from the pile) is clearly seen on the video. That said, Ron Winter was in an excellent position to determine who had the ball. Signaling, though, remained a challenge.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 21, 2011 14:35:39 GMT -5
Also, Ron was wearing glasses, so he had to protect the specs under the pile too. As an official who wears glasses, you have to take that into consideration.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 21, 2011 14:40:04 GMT -5
Now I can embed a photo of Winter!
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Post by becky10 on Nov 21, 2011 15:07:05 GMT -5
Also, Ron was wearing glasses, so he had to protect the specs under the pile too. As an official who wears glasses, you have to take that into consideration. I know that U-31 Chad Brown uses prescribed Goggles on the field. I feel that should be the case for every official. Too dangerous with just regular glasses for NFL Games..... or can say any sport!
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