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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 27, 2011 16:25:27 GMT -5
Winter is moving well and shows no ill-effects from his spill last week.
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Post by cj on Nov 27, 2011 16:56:20 GMT -5
Boger just missed an obvious face mask against Vince Young....although Dan Dierdorf should pay more attention...with the holding penalty on the same play against the Eagles, the penalties would have off set.....
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Post by Brent on Nov 27, 2011 17:08:21 GMT -5
Boger just missed an obvious face mask against Vince Young....although Dan Dierdorf should pay more attention...with the holding penalty on the same play against the Eagles, the penalties would have off set..... They also Missed a DPI on the Int by the Pats, and I say that as a Patriots fan...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2011 17:26:10 GMT -5
They also Missed a DPI on the Int by the Pats, and I say that as a Patriots fan... I disagree. Great no call.
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Post by tuckerewell on Nov 27, 2011 17:44:03 GMT -5
Two thing at the end of half in Bears/Raiders game....Chicago benefitted hugely by commiting a PF horse collar tackle on Raider LB Wimbley as he was returning an interception for what appeared to be a sure TD. Raiders and a 4 yd penalty against Bears. Due to time running out in half, Raiders had to kick FG. Commiting a PF should not benefit team commiting PF.
Also, as Bush of Raiders tried to score he was knocked OOB on 2 yd line with what appeared to be 7 seconds left. Clock was stopped at .05. Jackson asked for time to be put on clock. No go. Yet when kicking FG the 5 seconds went off the clock and when Lovie Smith of the Bears asked for time to be put back on clock he was granted his wish. Inconsistent if you ask me.
Overall though, Winter and crew have looked pretty good so far.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 27, 2011 18:19:34 GMT -5
You are really getting the chance to Winter work with his lanyard. He holds it in his hand pre-snap and is very comfortable running with it.
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Post by cj on Nov 27, 2011 18:21:31 GMT -5
Two thing at the end of half in Bears/Raiders game....Chicago benefitted hugely by commiting a PF horse collar tackle on Raider LB Wimbley as he was returning an interception for what appeared to be a sure TD. Raiders and a 4 yd penalty against Bears. Due to time running out in half, Raiders had to kick FG. Commiting a PF should not benefit team commiting PF. Also, as Bush of Raiders tried to score he was knocked OOB on 2 yd line with what appeared to be 7 seconds left. Clock was stopped at .05. Jackson asked for time to be put on clock. No go. Yet when kicking FG the 5 seconds went off the clock and when Lovie Smith of the Bears asked for time to be put back on clock he was granted his wish. Inconsistent if you ask me. Overall though, Winter and crew have looked pretty good so far. Two years ago, after a blatant slow stopping of the clock in an NBC game between PHI and NYG (NYG fumbled a kick off and it was recovered by PHI deep in the Giants end with about 2 seconds clerarly showing on the clock, but the timer allowed the clock to run out and it was stated the clock is not reviewable), Goodell by fiat ruled the clock would be subject to replay during the playoffs and the expectation was the Competition Committee would add it to the list of things that could be reviewed. For some reason that to this day I cannot understand, the C ompetition Committee voted against making the clock subject to replay. Also, I have always maintained that the display should show atenths of a second in the last minute of each quarter. Wlhy? Well let's say the digital display reads 0:07...that cvould mean anyuthing left in the quarter from exactly 7 seconds to 6.01 seconds (bear in mind that despite the display, today's electronic clocks are computer controlled and accurate to hundredths of a second although the display only shows full seconds)...in the former case if the timer starts the clock as he should say at the snap if appropriate, it will take a full seocnd to tick down to 6...in the later, as soon as the switch is turned on, the clock ticks to 6 seconds. There are situations where that whole full second can make a big difference even if the clock does become subject to replay. Just to prevent hanky panky, if the display is in tenths, we can see the instant the clock starts. To me, it's always been a no brainer and I just don't get it.
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 27, 2011 18:47:30 GMT -5
The rule change was approved for the remainder of the 2009 season, but all midseason rule changes must be subjected to offseason review.
In this case, they could not come up with reasonable criteria to subject the clock to a review. In the case of the NYG-PHI game, there was a huge pileup for a loose ball. At what point does recovery become decisive for the clock to stop? The replay does not give any indication as to what the clock should read, objectively.
When the officials judge a play dead with a clock stoppage, they will look at the clock. If the clock runs down an unreasonable amount, they will add the time back onto the clock.
I do not think football should be parsing tenths of a second like the eons-long final seconds of a basketball game.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 27, 2011 18:49:55 GMT -5
Bang-bang sideline play in OAK properly overturned by Winter. Can't fault Gary Arthur for making the call he did, but a good overturn.
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Post by zcr57 on Nov 27, 2011 19:18:36 GMT -5
Jeff Triplette must need a refresher on the NFL's regular season overtime procedure.
During the coin toss of the DEN-SD game, he said that both teams must have the opportunity to possess the ball. That doesn't sound right...
Edit: Triplette just announced that the first team to score wins, and that there is no equal possession rule.
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Post by timdaye on Nov 27, 2011 19:19:10 GMT -5
SD/DEN into OT. At the OT coin toss, Triplette announces that each team must have a possession and an opportunity to score. What is he smokin'?
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 27, 2011 19:27:13 GMT -5
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Post by cj on Nov 27, 2011 20:24:18 GMT -5
The rule change was approved for the remainder of the 2009 season, but all midseason rule changes must be subjected to offseason review. In this case, they could not come up with reasonable criteria to subject the clock to a review. In the case of the NYG-PHI game, there was a huge pileup for a loose ball. At what point does recovery become decisive for the clock to stop? The replay does not give any indication as to what the clock should read, objectively. When the officials judge a play dead with a clock stoppage, they will look at the clock. If the clock runs down an unreasonable amount, they will add the time back onto the clock. I do not think football should be parsing tenths of a second like the eons-long final seconds of a basketball game. Disagree. Firstly, there's nothing to lose on either thing. You do realize with today's computerized scoreboards, the game is timed in thousandth of a second intervals in any event. Only the display shows the seconds truncated not rounded off to the nearest second. There is always a possibility of some hanky panky with the clock by a home town timer sayi holding off starting the clock as the home team is driving giving them almost an extra second and nobody would be any the wiser. If the technology is there, why not use it? There's nothing to lose. Mark my words. Sooner or later there will be a controversy regarding this. An ounce of prevention, of course, is worth a pound of good!
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 27, 2011 20:26:50 GMT -5
Blakeman's crew settles down a disagreement:
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 27, 2011 20:28:54 GMT -5
Garth DeFelice restraining a Seahawk:
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