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Post by russ on Sept 11, 2012 0:09:24 GMT -5
Not at all. A pilot is in charge of flying a plane and making sure every one lands safely, plus knowing the winds and coordinates and what not. An inexperienced pilot could be the difference between a safe landing or death. No one is going to die with these replacements. Is the game worse with them, sure, but it is not as desperate as you think. If you actually took time to watch these game instead of complain you would see worse Officiating for sure, but you would also see that writers and certain board members on here are overreacting. A white hat replacement official is in charge of a NFL Game... if his crew makes a mistake and gives teams extra downs, yardage and time outs... that could cost TEAM Owners Millions of $$$$'s.... that is just as bad. Also with losses it could cost a team playoffs... That still doesn't compare to a pilot at all though.
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Post by becky10 on Sept 11, 2012 0:10:17 GMT -5
A white hat replacement official is in charge of a NFL Game... if his crew makes a mistake and gives teams extra downs, yardage and time outs... that could cost TEAM Owners Millions of $$$$'s.... that is just as bad. Also with losses it could cost a team playoffs... That still doesn't compare to a pilot at all though. A crew is a crew....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 1:00:29 GMT -5
So 120 people dying are better than a blown call in a game?
...come on Becky
I respect your love for the officiating world and coming from a long line of high level officiating family appreciate the admiration of the profession.
But...
Come on.
The replacements are there because they have been given the opportunity and financially it is a windfall. If you have ever worked on the field at any level, let alone a high level such as any NCAA experience (which before everyone gets all uptight and defensive about I have) and youahve been. Told that that level is the best you are ever going to get to then why not do what they are doing.
The nfl officials CAN be working right now. The lockout is what it is. A labor issue.
Can the owners and league also make concessions to get them on the field yes.
But at this point who is going to be hurting more....the owners after one week of no major issues (point out whAt you want but replay and observers involved in lots of cases) or the percentage of guys on staff that 3 weeks in are going to be hurting big time for a paycheck.
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Post by becky10 on Sept 11, 2012 1:15:27 GMT -5
So 120 people dying are better than a blown call in a game? ...come on Becky I respect your love for the officiating world and coming from a long line of high level officiating family appreciate the admiration of the profession. But... Come on. The replacements are there because they have been given the opportunity and financially it is a windfall. If you have ever worked on the field at any level, let alone a high level such as any NCAA experience (which before everyone gets all uptight and defensive about I have) and youahve been. Told that that level is the best you are ever going to get to then why not do what they are doing. The nfl officials CAN be working right now. The lockout is what it is. A labor issue. Can the owners and league also make concessions to get them on the field yes. But at this point who is going to be hurting more....the owners after one week of no major issues (point out whAt you want but replay and observers involved in lots of cases) or the percentage of guys on staff that 3 weeks in are going to be hurting big time for a paycheck. I did NOT say 120 people were dying... I said it is like putting a 1yr Pilot in charge of American Airlines... I say one thing.. and people change the wording to best suit their needs.... Please read.... Thank you!
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Post by russ on Sept 11, 2012 2:33:41 GMT -5
So 120 people dying are better than a blown call in a game? ...come on Becky I respect your love for the officiating world and coming from a long line of high level officiating family appreciate the admiration of the profession. But... Come on. The replacements are there because they have been given the opportunity and financially it is a windfall. If you have ever worked on the field at any level, let alone a high level such as any NCAA experience (which before everyone gets all uptight and defensive about I have) and youahve been. Told that that level is the best you are ever going to get to then why not do what they are doing. The nfl officials CAN be working right now. The lockout is what it is. A labor issue. Can the owners and league also make concessions to get them on the field yes. But at this point who is going to be hurting more....the owners after one week of no major issues (point out whAt you want but replay and observers involved in lots of cases) or the percentage of guys on staff that 3 weeks in are going to be hurting big time for a paycheck. I did NOT say 120 people were dying... I said it is like putting a 1yr Pilot in charge of American Airlines... I say one thing.. and people change the wording to best suit their needs.... Please read.... Thank you! But it is an apples and oranges comparison that frankly does not make sense. How does putting a 1 year pilot in charge of an american airlines flight relate in any way to locked out Officials. Maybe explaining better would help me understand.
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Post by hank on Sept 11, 2012 3:10:20 GMT -5
Becky might turn off her proud TV package, others will not. The owners, networks, and league will continue to make $$$$. With all due respect to this board, most fans could careless about the men in stripes and the whistle they blow. They do not know the difference between a back judge and a field judge, nor do they care.
As far as labor disputes go, I am disgusted that replay officials, like Larry Nemmers, did not strike and support their colleagues. Solidarity must be a 20th Century concept.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2012 8:57:42 GMT -5
i think Becky is making the point that similar to a rookie pilot, these officials are inexperienced and highly unqualified to control things at such a high level. Perhaps it's not the best analogy, but it can be applied to some extent --- as far as people dying, well, let's be real...
maybe a better comparison is that to having an hourly Burger King employee becoming the General Manager for an entire store. I use this example because it is someone who is trained in the basics of the company attempting to do something much more beyond his/her experience. It can be done (I myself have run a shift at my restaurant, despite being just a run-of-the-mill table waiter) but it won't be done to the best ability.
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Post by tuckerewell on Sept 11, 2012 21:03:07 GMT -5
I give the crew on the NO/Wash game a 3.75, the crew on SD/Oak 3.25. I thought the late MNF crew missed a couple of calls like the horse collar on McFadden. The NO/Wash crew was good. If people were expecting big mistakes, I didn't see them in either of these games.
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