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Post by ak482 on Nov 16, 2014 18:54:14 GMT -5
There's this Tweet from Blandino on the punt downing in Arizona:
Dean Blandino @deanblandino 1m1 minute ago In ARZ when the kicking team possesses the ball it is dead by rule. #28 had possession and threw it back. Different than batting it back.
Honestly, reading this tweet makes me think Boger didn't make this call on his own.
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Post by ak482 on Nov 16, 2014 19:09:43 GMT -5
Easy, but critical taunting penalty on #49 of Detroit. Can't yap at the opposing sideline and flex in front of the officials. Young man, coach wants to see you, bring your playbook.
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 16, 2014 19:36:38 GMT -5
How is this inconsistent? If there is no clear, immediate recovery, then Vikings cannot get the ball. Whistle by itself is irrelevant, it is just a signal that the incomplete call has already been made. It was perfectly clear. And what is "immediate"? Many, MANY recoveries have been made after a few seconds. And many plays have been whistled dead and "non-reviewable" by inadvertent whistles. Sorry, I don't seem to recall many. Or any.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 16, 2014 21:05:37 GMT -5
Colts were yelling for illegal contact when TY Hilton got knocked down. However there is no illegal contact when the QB scrambles out of the pocket. Luck was scrambling, hence no illegal contact.
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Post by tuckerewell on Nov 16, 2014 21:11:53 GMT -5
In the punt play in AZ/DET game there was no way player had possession. However briefly it was in his hands had he he not tried to toss it back it would've been a touchback. The Cardinals got the best of both worlds there. A terrible possibly game changing call in my opinion. About what I expect from Boger.
All ready seeing NE secondary making multiple contact with receivers well past 5 yards. On GW recent pass to Hilton he was hit twice, once at about 5 yards and then again at at least ten with no flag. Why does NE benefit from these things so often? The Hillton pass was clearly illegal contact. No official saw the play? Is that it?
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 16, 2014 21:26:44 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 16, 2014 21:30:54 GMT -5
In the punt play in AZ/DET game there was no way player had possession. However briefly it was in his hands had he he not tried to toss it back it would've been a touchback. The Cardinals got the best of both worlds there. A terrible possibly game changing call in my opinion. About what I expect from Boger. All ready seeing NE secondary making multiple contact with receivers well past 5 yards. On GW recent pass to Hilton he was hit twice, once at about 5 yards and then again at at least ten with no flag. Why does NE benefit from these things so often? The Hillton pass was clearly illegal contact. No official saw the play? Is that it? Video: www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-instant-replay/0ap3000000429428/Instant-Replay-Return-called-back
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Post by tuckerewell on Nov 16, 2014 21:33:13 GMT -5
The illegal contact call against Indy at around 4:22 left in half was another call favoring the patriots. It was called for contact after 5 yards. The contact occurred at ten yards but when you go back and look at it all the contact was initiated by NE receiver. Right about ten yards he brought his hands up to the defender in order to keep him away. Terrible call! Should've been OPI
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Post by tuckerewell on Nov 16, 2014 21:37:44 GMT -5
I'm just going play by play here but didn't Browner of NE contact his man twice? Once well down field ? If they just called the play in my previous post against Indy why didn't they call that play against NE? I would be livid if I was Chuck Pagano
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Post by theglenn on Nov 17, 2014 7:34:12 GMT -5
It was perfectly clear. And what is "immediate"? Many, MANY recoveries have been made after a few seconds. And many plays have been whistled dead and "non-reviewable" by inadvertent whistles. Sorry, I don't seem to recall many. Or any. I can think of one last season (and I'd like to say two but of course finding video of a specific play from an NFL game is imposible these days) when a Steelers QB pass was ruled a fumble on the field...no whistle was blown...and an opposing player eventually picked the ball up. *Edit: I believe it was 2012. And it stick out not just because I thought the call was wrong (should have been INC) but because such a big deal was made about "playing to the whistle" and how the Steelers just stood around and assumed it was an incompletion. If its a fumble and the whistle doesn't blow are we saying that the D has to pick it up "immediately" or its not a fumble?
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Post by theglenn on Nov 17, 2014 7:56:40 GMT -5
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Post by russ on Nov 17, 2014 18:02:40 GMT -5
I'm missing your point. This is different because the play was ruled live on the field so immediate recovery does not come into play because the play was still live. The Play yesterday was ruled an incomplete pass so there had to be an immediate play on the ball which there was not. If, for example, The play from last year would have been ruled incomplete and the same thing happened, the Bears would have gotten the ball after review since there was not an immediate recovery. But since Blakeman's crew correctly ruled it a fumble on the field, it was a free ball that anyone could have picked up.
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Post by theglenn on Nov 17, 2014 21:31:17 GMT -5
I'm missing your point. This is different because the play was ruled live on the field so immediate recovery does not come into play because the play was still live. The Play yesterday was ruled an incomplete pass so there had to be an immediate play on the ball which there was not. If, for example, The play from last year would have been ruled incomplete and the same thing happened, the Bears would have gotten the ball after review since there was not an immediate recovery. But since Blakeman's crew correctly ruled it a fumble on the field, it was a free ball that anyone could have picked up. My point is if the whistle doesn't end the play even when its called incorrectly what is "immediate"? They blew the whistle. People stopped...as they are trained to do. After a couple beats one jumps on the ball anyway and they decide it wasn't "immediate" enough. Makes no sense as a rule.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 18:07:04 GMT -5
bill leavy and his crew not calling pi on the doug baldwin pass, among other missed calls. Getting another letter sent to the seahawks organization stating we messed up again. If i messed up at my job every week i would get fired. I couldnt just send my boss an apology letter and expect it to be ok. When are there going to be reprocussions for blowing calls and potentially costing a team a win.
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