[NHL] Video: Hockey Goal Review

[FredFan7]

Cameras record a hockey goal review.

Fascinating stuff!

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[cj]

This is one area, as I've said before, where the NFL cops out. There is no reason the IR system in the NFL is handled by the referee going under that hood and getting no help from the NFL office in NY which should be monitoring the games...it would probably be much easier to institute this in the NFL as it would only be done on coach's or replay officials challenges (although now they do it on scoring plays starting this year, if there is a this year). I have often wondered why the NFL doesn't want the office in NY to do the same thing they do in Toronto other than it might make the supervisors look bad. I still can't get over the situation in the Baltimore game a few years ago when the whole world could see the field goal attempt on the last play of the game had hit the back bar but the NY office left Morelli out to dry with the absurd claim the play was not reviewable....thank goodness Morelli eventually guessed right but it was so unnecessary.

Let the referee discuss the call on the field with the war room in New York and they can look at the replay together but ultimately NY should have the final say just the way it is done, very professionally, in the NHL.

[FredFan7]

The first NFL instant replay had the officials standing around while someone up in the booth was judging the play. The big hue and cry when replay came back in 1999 was, "The referee must make the call. No standing around while some invisible 'presence' calls the play." I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that is part of the sentiment behind the white hat going under the hood.

I think there's more communication between the instant replay official (IRO) and the referee than we think. I think the IRO many times says to the referee, "Look at the feet." "Look for control." Watch #27, did he re-establish?" But, the final call rests with the referee.

I will say, the NHL system is VERY impressive.

[cj]

I wouldn't take the white hat out of the loop...a challenge is issued he goes under the hood...while he is heading over there, the NY office is looking at the replay already....the referee gets some input as does the IR official upstairs at the game...often the reversal or upholding of the call is so obvious, by the time the white hat gets over there, they have seen what has to be done...this system would cut down in many cases the wasted time while the referee sets himself up etc.

The final decision, just as in the NHL, ultiomately should rest with the war room in NY...if the replays are inconclusive, they go with the original call on the field. Also common sense should prevail...if they see something so egregeous, and it is correctable and not a judgment call on a penalty, then they should correct it. The play with Morelli was inexcusable I noted above..

Perierra always said he didn't want any part of it...yet he was always ready Tuesday or Wednesday morning to criticize sometimes when in his opinion a play should have been reversed or not or vice versa. At least the NHL puts their supervisors as the final decisive decion maker.

(Incidentally legend has it that on the tuck play, when Coleman went under the hood, the IR official reminded him of the tuck rule!)

[Deleted]

Perhaps we are talking of a matter of emphasis, but to me it is better that the on-field officials be involved in the decision-making, even if they only affirm what the replay people see or don't see. One of the things wrong with the first system of review in the NFL was that the on-field guys were not part of the decision-making. In the next football season (which I hope occurs in Sept. 2011) the booth will signal to the on-field guys if they believe that there should be a review of a touchdown. The referee will still make the call, and I think that it is better that the final decision be in the hands of the people on the field. If the NFL wishes to go to the "war room" form of review, I have no problem, so long as the on-field official sees the review and has the ultimate responsibility for the call.