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Post by zcr57 on Apr 14, 2012 19:43:23 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with officiating mechanics in hockey, but there was a situation in tonight's Rangers-Senators game that made me scratch my head.
An Ottawa player sucker punched a New York player (knocking him to the ground) and started wailing on him. Meanwhile, the referee who was a foot away from the altercation stood there with is arm raised and didn't do anything to stop the altercation. By the time the linesmen got there, the situation got out of control and several players were going at it. The Ottawa player was booted, along with a NYR player who received a game misconduct for being the "3rd man in."
Why aren't referees responsible for stopping altercations in the NHL? This is a situation that could have been kept under control and we're lucky someone wasn't seriously hurt.
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 14, 2012 21:24:03 GMT -5
Linesmen are charged with breaking up fights. Referees call the penalties. If the referee was busy breaking up a fight, he'd have never gotten the third man in penalty. Now, with a second referee, sometimes one of the two referees help out during a line brawl, but nine times out of ten, when there a scrum, it's the linesmen's turn to go to work!
EDIT: Linesmen work like heck during the game calling icing, offside, handling a majority of the faceoffs, and assisting the referee in other rulings. They don't just break up fights!
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 15, 2012 17:42:27 GMT -5
Post any and all observations about games you see in this thread.
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 15, 2012 18:06:39 GMT -5
Mayhem in game three of the first round Flyers-Penguins playoff series. 72 penalty minutes in the first period, including a 10-minute match penalty on a Pengiun (deliberately causing injury to an opponent).
Anyone see youtube, etc.?
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Post by cj on Apr 15, 2012 18:11:03 GMT -5
.....as long as they don't break the time honored tradition of NHL officiating namely let the players decide the game and don't make marginal calls late in the game that could decide the game. It's a time honored tradition and the proper way to adjudicate an ice hockey match.
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 15, 2012 18:11:49 GMT -5
Mayhem in game three of the first round Flyers-Penguins playoff series. 72 penalty minutes in the first period, including a 10-minute match penalty on a Pengiun (deliberately causing injury to an opponent). Anyone see youtube, etc.? Video of incidents: Part 1: it flared up again in the third period Part 2: |
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 16, 2012 17:27:36 GMT -5
NHL hockey is the only high level sport where the official has to be as highly skilled as the players. You don't have to be a good hitter or pitcher to translate into being an umpire. You don't have to be a good dribbler to be a good basketball referee. You don't have to have good blocking technique to be a football official. But, in hockey, you have to be as good of a skater as the players. They have to pivot, stop, sprint, and cut as well as the players in order to carry out their duties. Their bodies take a cardiovascular and physical pounding. I guess that's why a hockey official's career starts in his mid-20s and end by the time he's 50 (usually sooner). Hockey officiating looks like a lot of fun, but since I can't skate, alas, it was never in the cards for me!  |
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Post by impz45 on Apr 17, 2012 8:03:25 GMT -5
This has been a difficult post season to officiate up to this point due to all the aggression and what is at stake. Also, with emphasis on player safety, these suspensions are going to hurt teams. Players need to learn to play within confines of rules when stakes are this high.
Nothing more exciting than a Stanley Cup Overtime game.
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 17, 2012 10:07:46 GMT -5
Mayhem in game three of the first round Flyers-Penguins playoff series. 72 penalty minutes in the first period, including a 10-minute match penalty on a Pengiun (deliberately causing injury to an opponent). Anyone see youtube, etc.? Former referee, Kerry Fraser, weighs in on the Flyers-Penguins game three pugilism. bit.ly/I3e6bj |
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 17, 2012 20:53:22 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 17, 2012 21:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Apr 17, 2012 21:04:23 GMT -5
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Post by zcr57 on Apr 17, 2012 21:44:21 GMT -5
I've never seen this much violence in the NHL playoffs. I agree with FF7 that a message needs to be sent.
Imagine what might happen if we get a Rangers-Devils series...
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Post by ak482 on Apr 18, 2012 15:08:33 GMT -5
Shanahan laying down the law (hopefully): Torres suspended pending hearing. www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=628445That's a shot that can't be accepted under any circumstances. Even if the intent wasn't to injure, Torres left his feet, launched high with the elbows, and went to head well after Hossa played the puck. Given Torres' rep & the fact that Hossa went off on a stretcher, Torres will likely be sitting for quite a while. |
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Post by cball1985 on Apr 18, 2012 20:20:28 GMT -5
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