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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2012 16:54:52 GMT -5
Helverson is a Back Judge
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Post by becky10 on Sept 12, 2012 22:45:20 GMT -5
Locked-out NFL officials looking for a solution
@wfaa by George Riba Sept 12, 2012 Talks with Tim Millis is the executive director of the NFL Referees Association. WFAA
Posted on September 12, 2012 at 10:28 PM Updated today at 10:28 PM
WYLIE — Tim Millis is the executive director of the NFL Referees Association. Since last October, he has been directly involved with the negotiations with the league trying to get a new contract.
So far, no luck.
"This may not be a good time," Millis said. "They got into the same situation with the players last year."
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said the biggest issue is the pension. The league would like to switch to a defined contributions program like a 401K.
"I don't want to get into that, but a lot of the businesses that are changing the form of a pension are businesses that are in financial trouble. I don't think the NFL is," Millis said. "Pensions and salaries, that's what we're negotiating."
Millis said officials can make anywhere from $70,000 to $160,000 a year plus that pension. It varies because it includes preseason games, weekly game fees, training camps, clinics, preparation time and playoff games.
He said the perception is being an NFL official is a part-time job. "It's not," Millis said, "because compared to other sports, it’s nowhere near those that work more games than we do and also, it’s not a part-time job. It’s a full-time seasonal job."
During his officiating days, Millis worked three Conference Championship games and two Super Bowls. He remembers how long the hours were.
"I know during the season when you consider travel time, I probably spent 50 hours a week on the NFL, so you say, 'How did you have another job?" Millis asked. "That's what I was telling you: I worked 80 to 90 hours a week."
The NFL is known for its record-setting revenues, but those revenues are having little impact on negotiations between the league and the union representing the officials. Millis said he hopes to return to the bargaining table next week.
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Post by FredFan7 on Sept 13, 2012 9:26:10 GMT -5
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Post by mike on Sept 13, 2012 9:35:58 GMT -5
Great article Fred. Huffington Post did a good job of staying neutral with this highly charged issue while effectively laying out the arguments from both sides
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Post by FredFan7 on Sept 13, 2012 10:57:47 GMT -5
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Post by mike on Sept 13, 2012 11:20:52 GMT -5
There is no explanation of how that $16.5 Million figure is reached so there is no way to know how accurate that is. Also, the NFLRA has not asked for a specific number but rather their demands they value at $16.5 Million. What if it turns out the actual value is $32 Million? That is $1 Million per team (or based on a 16 game season $62,500 per team per game). Not to mention what happens 5 years from now? I am admittedly not sympathetic to NFLRA's position as I think they have really overreached in terms of what they are asking for in light of contracts given to officials in other sports, but the situation is far more complex than writers looking for a quick article
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2012 12:54:01 GMT -5
CBS reported some of the regulars are sick of being on the sidelines and waiting for a deal to get down and CBS said some might start filtering back in and cross the picket line.
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Post by cj on Sept 17, 2012 13:05:51 GMT -5
CBS reported some of the regulars are sick of being on the sidelines and waiting for a deal to get down and CBS said some might start filtering back in and cross the picket line. No surprise here. Ultimately this is the reason so many of these labor=management disputes are ultimately settled. BTW there are no picket lines. It's a lockout, not a strike.
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Post by FredFan7 on Sept 17, 2012 13:11:40 GMT -5
I really doubt that any will filter back in. They are locked out. I really think the NFL will take the stance that ALL have to come back on the NFL's terms and won't take back any that surrender on their own. That way, it will continue to foster dissension in the ranks until the NFLRA caves in.
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Post by FredFan7 on Sept 17, 2012 14:28:29 GMT -5
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Post by cj on Sept 17, 2012 14:43:51 GMT -5
Is that the latest? That seems to be from last week.
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Post by FredFan7 on Sept 17, 2012 14:44:36 GMT -5
Is that the latest? That seems to be from last week. Well, it was dated Sept. 17, and it is the first time I saw it. If it is old, I apologize.
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Post by FredFan7 on Sept 17, 2012 14:46:51 GMT -5
Albert Breer from NFL.com has this tweet today:
I've obtained a copy of NFLRA memo that went out to refs today. Says "we are not focused on winning but are committed to doing what's right
NFLRA memo concedes benefits remain the issue ... Estimates the difference economically b/w the sides at just $250k for 2012.
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