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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 11, 2023 22:19:27 GMT -5
Enjoy the games and post your observations here! Colts vs. Patriots (at Frankfurt) NFLN — Tra Blake Browns at Ravens — Land Clark Packers at Steelers — Scott Novak Texans at Bengals — Carl Cheffers Saints at Vikings — Adrian Hill 49ers at Jaguars — Brad Allen Titans at Buccaneers — Alan Eck Falcons at Cardinals — Craig Wrolstad Lions at Chargers — Shawn Smith Giants at Cowboys — Brad Rogers Commanders at Seahawks — Alex Kemp Jets at Raiders NBC Peacock — Shawn Hochuli
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Post by zebrablog on Nov 12, 2023 12:11:38 GMT -5
Substitutions
U102 Bruce Stritesky (swing official) to Smith's crew (DET-LAC) LJ101 Carl Johnson to Hill's crew (NO-MIN) Replay official Brian Matoren to Smith's crew (DET-LAC)
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 14:38:41 GMT -5
Back judge Greg Yette has to concentrate and track this field goal attempt closely as it just snuck inside the upright for three points for the 49ers.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 14:39:31 GMT -5
The Packers Keyshawn Nixon appears to intercept the Steelers pass. Down judge Brian Sakowski and side judge David Meslow look through a sea of legs and feet and rule it a Nixon interception.
All turnovers are subject to an automatic review. During the commercial break, replay overturned the interception to an incomplete pass.
It was difficult for Sakowski and Meslow to look through all those feet. It was good judgement for them to rule interception and make the play subject to an automatic review.'
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Post by howard63 on Nov 12, 2023 15:08:57 GMT -5
Tra Boger does not have a number on his back in Pittsburgh.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 15:31:24 GMT -5
Lamar Jackson is going for a first down when he is hit along the sideline. Line judge Tom Stephan keeps his flag in his pocket and both teams come together to discuss the action against Jackson.
In real time it is bang-bang and in slow motion Jackson has one foot out of bounds when he's hit.
So why no flag?
The officiating bosses made this play an point of emphasis. If the defender is committed to the tackle before the runner steps out of bounds, the officials should not call a personal foul. And, Jackson was running for a first down and did not let up to go out of bounds.
Also, on this play, the defender used his hands and the hit, while hard, was not unnecessarily rough.
Baltimore fans and players got excited, but this is a good no-call.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 15:32:56 GMT -5
A pass from Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett has every look of a lateral pass. If the ball is parallel, it is a backward pass by rule. Line judge Mark Stewart ruled it an incomplete forward pass which kills the play. If replay reverses the incomplete pass to a muffed backward pass, the Packers get the ball since they eventually recovered the loose ball.
The parallel determination is made based on the point where the ball is released to the point where it is first touched. It looks clear that Pickett releases the ball at the 9 and Steelers running back Jalen Warren touches the ball around the rightmost part of the TV arrow on the 10-yard numerals. That arrow is roughly a foot behind the 9, so at minimum it is not a stretch to say this is conclusively parallel with it leaning towards backwards.
Replay opted to stay with the call on the field, apparently not having evidence that is conclusive enough to overturn. However, objective reasoning puts this as a reversal, with the Packers being awarded the eventual recovery (but no advance).
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 15:46:35 GMT -5
Tra Boger does not have a number on his back in Pittsburgh. My guess is that he forgot to pack his long sleeves and there is a backup emergency shirt at the stadium that he had to wear.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 18:43:17 GMT -5
The Steelers intercept the Packers on the last play of the game. Instead of taking a knee the defender ran it back. As he ran out of bounds, the Packers Zach Tom gave a frustrated late hit out of bounds, sparking some angry moments.
Tom was flagged for a late hit out of bounds, but since the enforcement was the succeeding spot and there were zeroes on the clock, referee Scott Novak declared the game over.
Since the foul happened on the last play of the game, the officials had to sort it out. But, once the referee declares the game over, the crew is free to leave the field and does not have to penalize any unsporting acts during the handshake line.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 18:44:17 GMT -5
Texans linebacker Denzel Perryman is pulling out all the stops -- or pushing, as the case may be -- to prevent a touchdown by Bengals tight end Tanner Hudson.
He is flagged for both illegal contact and defensive pass interference. When illegal contact continues prior to the pass to after the pass is thrown, the illegal contact converts to pass interference. However, in this case there are two separate actions, and they are both fouls prior to and after the pass was released. And in an interesting way, they work together.
The defensive pass interference is the larger penalty, as it is spotted at the 1-yard line. But we don't completely ignore the illegal contact. Hudson is pushed out of bounds by the illegal contact. Usually, Hudson would lose his status as an eligible receiver by stepping out of bounds, but since it was caused by a foul, he does not. This is key, because an ineligible Hudson could not be interfered with.
The call was by back judge Martin Hankins patrolling the end line, and the crew discussed at length to ensure that all the parts worked together. It was important to announce both fouls, because it supported the enforcement of the defensive pass interference.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 18:45:40 GMT -5
an hour ago Illegal touching of a forward pass Cameron Filipe Cameron Filipe
Texans receiver Robert Woods caught a touchdown pass midway through the third quarter that was nullified by penalty. Woods stepped out of bounds beyond the end line, re-established with two feet in bounds, and caught the ball, being the first player to touch the pass.
This is a foul for illegal touching. If the ball had been tipped or otherwise touched by another player before Woods caught it, there would be no foul. Additionally, if Woods never re-established in bounds with two feet, the pass would be incomplete, with no foul, as soon as the Woods touched the pass.
There is no yardage associated with the penalty for illegal touching; a loss of down is the only penalty assessed. Back judge Martin Hankins employed the proper mechanic of dropping his hat when he observed Woods step out of bounds.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 19:56:51 GMT -5
Brad Allen's crew has to sort out a crazy situation as players come off the sideline during a live ball.
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 19:59:06 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 20:14:52 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 12, 2023 20:29:16 GMT -5
It wound up being a net no-change review, but 49ers quarterback Brock Purdy shovels off an incomplete pass with 26 seconds remaining in the first half. The booth reviewed if his knee was down, and they left it with the call on the field.
Had it been overturned to down-by-contact, the spot of the ball would be the same, and just like the intentional grounding, it would be subject to a 10-second runoff. The only difference is that the defense can decline the runoff for the grounding but not the runoff for the replay review.
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