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Post by melkaman8200 on Dec 3, 2023 18:28:08 GMT -5
So, in Philadelphia, during a scuffle, Dre Greenlaw was ejected for contact with a non-player, Eagles head of security, Dom DiSandro. However, it looks like DiSandro was also asked to leave the field, I'm guessing because he initiated beyond what was needed to separate the players, although no announcement was specifically made for him being ejected. Although I do believe that provisions have existed for quite some time to eject a non-player member of a team, I don't know that I've ever seen it or heard of it happening.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 19:21:14 GMT -5
Alex Kemp not buying it.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 19:22:58 GMT -5
So, in Philadelphia, during a scuffle, Dre Greenlaw was ejected for contact with a non-player, Eagles head of security, Dom DiSandro. However, it looks like DiSandro was also asked to leave the field, I'm guessing because he initiated beyond what was needed to separate the players, although no announcement was specifically made for him being ejected. Although I do believe that provisions have existed for quite some time to eject a non-player member of a team, I don't know that I've ever seen it or heard of it happening. I have never seen a non-player banished from a NFL sideline. streamable.com/f8kwwa
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 19:24:57 GMT -5
For the second time today, there is a rare 5 vs. 15 enforcement, where there is a minor penalty that is overridden by a major foul. Basically, the down doesn't count and the 15-yarder is enforced from the previous spot.
There aren't usually options for a 5 vs. 15, but there is an exception for an extra-point attempt. Since there was a false start, there is no down to cancel out, so the offense cal carry the 15 yards to the kickoff. If one of the fouls was a live-ball foul, there is no option, the enforcement must be applied to wipe away the attempt and must be enforced there. We explain that further in a post from 2015 on conversion attempt rules.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 19:44:58 GMT -5
The Carolina Panthers Brian Burns is ejected for throwing a punch during a post-extra point scrum. Side judge Anthony Jeffries issued the disqualifying foul.
This is the 15th player ejection of the year.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 19:45:57 GMT -5
With 4:53 to go on the 3rd quarter of the CAR-TB game, Mike Evans caught a pass from Baker Mayfield. As Evans was about to be pushed out of bounds, he lept toward the goal line. The officiating crew initially marked Evans out at the 1-yard line, but TB challenged the call. Replays showed that Evans did not step out of bounds and was able to extend the ball inside the pylon before any part of his body touched out of bounds. The play was correctly reversed to a TD for Evans and the Buccaneers.
The location where the ball crosses the goal line is important in this case. Had Evans been a runner and simply ran into the endzone, the ball could be outside of the pylon if Evans stepped into the endzone inside the pylon. However, since this was a diving attempt where Evans landed out of bounds, the ball needed to be inside the pylon to count as a score.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 19:47:01 GMT -5
There are a lot of things that went wrong with officiating in the Falcons-Jets game, but here's one that has been identified as an error, but was a correct call.
Falcons running back Cordarrelle Patterson fumbles the ball and bats the ball out of bounds to prevent the Jets from recovering. The rule is that it is an illegal bat if the ball is batted forward in the field of play. Separately, it is also a foul if it is batted in any direction when the ball is in the end zone. Patterson's backward bat is legal.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 19:57:25 GMT -5
There was a bit of confusion because the wrong number was announced, but Browns center Ethan Pocic was guilty of a false start for moving the ball forward on a 3rd & short. This is not apparent on the views that were shown on television. To analyze this, we need to look at the 2nd down play.
The 2nd down play ends short of the line to gain, which is the front edge of the paint on the 35-yard line. You can see that down judge Frank LeBlanc marks this clearly short of the stripe and it brings up 3rd & inches.
When the Browns are in formation, the ball is touching the stripe, which means Pocic is altering the neutral zone after it's established. When there is short yardage, this extra bump is crucial, because the defense is given an indication that they are in the neutral zone and may reset. Centers are aware that this is a particular point of emphasis in the short-yardage situations, and this has been reviewed multiple times on the officials' training tapes this year.
The false start brought up a 3rd & 5, and the drive ended on a turnover on downs.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 20:04:07 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 20:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by zebrablog on Dec 3, 2023 20:27:18 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 21:39:17 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 3, 2023 23:03:43 GMT -5
The Lions-Saints game had a long delay as a member of the chain gang got rolled up and appeared to suffer a serious leg injury. The visual footage looked gruesome. As one who has a titanium rod in one tibia and plates and screws in the other tibia at the knee, I felt this. The chain gang is in just as much danger as the on-field officials. The game moves so fast. Blocked players can go flying out of bounds and take someone out at the legs. The chain gang is supplied by the home team and most are amateur officials. Best wishes to the injured chain gang member and, if an official, hopefully he'll be back on the field this coming August. Much better news that originally feared.
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Post by tj888 on Dec 3, 2023 23:24:40 GMT -5
Awful awful officiating at the end of the game between the Chiefs and the Packers. Clear DPI missed after a horrible late hit out of bounds call by Patterson.
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Post by harrys on Dec 3, 2023 23:28:42 GMT -5
Awful awful officiating at the end of the game between the Chiefs and the Packers. Clear DPI missed after a horrible late hit out of bounds call by Patterson. Game's not over yet, but this is one of the worst-officiated drives I've ever seen at any level. Either side has a legitimate reason to loudly complain if they lose. Heck, even if they win. Also, there was a questionable out-of-bounds call with clock stoppage. To me it looked like the WR was also moving backwards when he went out, but I'm no expert. Just love to learn more about it.
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