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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 8, 2023 23:59:55 GMT -5
Enjoy the games and post your observations here!
Panthers at Saints — Alan Eck Lions at Bears — Tra Blake Texans at Jets — Brad Allen Colts at Bengals — Shawn Hochuli Jaguars at Browns — Ron Torbert Rams at Ravens — Scott Novak Buccaneers at Falcons — Alex Kemp Vikings at Raiders — Craig Wrolstad Seahawks at 49ers — Brad Rogers Bills at Chiefs — Carl Cheffers Broncos at Chargers — Clete Blakeman Eagles at Cowboys NBC Peacock — John Hussey
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Post by tj888 on Dec 9, 2023 22:57:56 GMT -5
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Post by exhockeyref on Dec 10, 2023 11:23:26 GMT -5
Also reported on cbssports.com. Would be interesting to get more news and/or analysis if available. The misses were bad--it had escaped me that they were from the same crew.
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Post by zebrablog on Dec 10, 2023 13:23:14 GMT -5
Substitutions
FJ109 Dyrol Prioleau to Blakeman's crew (DEN-LAC)
LJ9 Mark Perlman to Hill's crew (TEN-MIA/Monday)
U102 Bruce Stritesky (swing official) is off this week
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 10, 2023 14:23:09 GMT -5
Nice job by Alan Eck's crew to make sure Alvin Kamara gets all the yardage he's entitled to.
Officials have to balance safety with rewarding effort, and the officials got the right blend on this play.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 10, 2023 14:25:26 GMT -5
Lions center Graham Glasgow was flagged for tripping, a foul that is seldom called, but one that was a great pickup here by umpire Tony Michalek. Glasgow extends his right leg and trips Bears defensive tackle Andrew Billings.
It is illegal to extend your leg to trip any player, including the runner. Starting this season, tripping is now classified as a personal foul and results in a 15-yard penalty. Previously, tripping was only a 10-yard penalty, similar to holding. This is only the fifth tripping call of the season.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 10, 2023 14:27:52 GMT -5
On a field goal early in the second quarter, Colts defensive tackle Taven Bryan is penalized for leverage, which nullified the good field goal and awarded Cincinnati an automatic first down.
Bryan placed his left hand on the back of a Bengals offensive lineman and pushed off, propelling him upward. It is a foul to use a teammate or opponent's body to gain height in an attempt to block a field goal, whether by stepping on the player or, in this case, using your hands to push off the player.
Leverage, like its "cousin" leaping, is a type of unsportsmanlike conduct and carries with it an automatic first down, allowing the Bengals to take the points off the board and extend their drive.
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Post by exhockeyref on Dec 10, 2023 14:28:05 GMT -5
A fairly routine first 1/2 of the 1:00 games. It would be great to make it though this week with no officiating controversies.
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Post by exhockeyref on Dec 10, 2023 14:30:22 GMT -5
Lions center Graham Glasgow was flagged for tripping, a foul that is seldom called, but one that was a great pickup here by umpire Tony Michalek. Glasgow extends his right leg and trips Bears defensive tackle Andrew Billings. It is illegal to extend your leg to trip any player, including the runner. Starting this season, tripping is now classified as a personal foul and results in a 15-yard penalty. Previously, tripping was only a 10-yard penalty, similar to holding. This is only the fifth tripping call of the season. Refs in the DET/CHI game also did a good job on an early sideline scuffle with a late hit OB then some extra-curricular activity.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 10, 2023 15:31:29 GMT -5
Lots of interest in this play where it appears the Bears get away with a hold. During the play, the Lions number 97 is attacking the Bears number 64. This is the action that most threatens quarterback Justin Fields, so referee Tra Blake and umpire Tony Michalek are keying in on this block to see if it turns into a holding foul.
But, a few steps behind the play the Lions number 96 is also on the attack. Number 62 of the Bears does a pretty big hook and turn on the defender.
The block by number 64 was legal. While we can make an argument that the hook and turn by 62 didn't have an impact on the play, it is a hold that should have been called.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 10, 2023 15:32:54 GMT -5
Many times younger officials are eager to protect a kick receiver when they signal a fair catch. Officials have to make sure the receiver completes the catch before sounding the whistle.
On this play side judge Chad Hill and back judge Rich Martinez do a good job holding the whistle on this fair catch. Good thing too as the receiver muffed the kick and the Bengals recovered the ball.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 10, 2023 16:52:39 GMT -5
A loose ball during a Bears 3rd & 13 play was originally allowed to play out as a fumble, but after the play it was ruled an incomplete pass by quarterback Justin Fields.
This is an element that replay can get involved in with a "replay assist" -- that there was a forward pass, not a fumble and not down prior to the pass. Regardless if the forward pass ruling came about by a discussion on the field or by replay assist, the officiating crew must evaluate for intentional grounding. On grounding, replay can only assist on whether the quarterback is in the pocket, if the pass crossed the line of scrimmage, and the spot of any foul. Replay cannot weigh in on any other aspect.
In this case, referee Tra Blake and line judge Daniel Gallagher discussed potential grounding, and Blake announced that Fields' pass was affected by defensive contact. This is not a correct call. Under Rule 8-2-1 Item 2a:
Intentional grounding should not be called if ... the passer initiates his passing motion toward an eligible receiver and then is significantly affected by physical contact from defensive player
The defensive contact occurred prior to the passing motion, therefore this pass which hit a lineman is intentional grounding. We would not classify this an illegal touching of a pass, but even if that is ruled, it would be declined.
On the next play, the Bears scored a touchdown on 4th & 13, which should have been 4th & 23. And while there was enough margin on that touchdown that it would not have made a difference (assuming everything else happens just the same), the fact is it is a call that must be made correctly by Blake, and failing that, someone on the crew to speak up.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 10, 2023 16:55:30 GMT -5
Lions defensive end Aidan Hutchinson jumped early on a 4th-and-13 play for Chicago which turned into a 37 yard touchdown pass from Justin Fields to DJ Moore. Wing officials Patrick Turner and Daniel Gallagher caught the foul, and also correctly allowed this play to continue.
If Hutchinson had touched an offensive lineman, this would have been encroachment and killed the play. Similarly, if Hutchinson had caused an offensive player to react, this would have become a neutral zone infraction and would also have prevented the play from continuing.
Since Hutchinson jumped into the neutral zone, did not touch an opponent, and did not cause a reaction by any opponent, this is a live-ball foul for offside and was properly ruled on the field, allowing the play to go off, and consequentially, resulted in a Bears touchdown.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 10, 2023 17:29:34 GMT -5
Again today we see a good example of whistle control and allowing the ball carrier to get all the yardage he's entitled to.
Josh Allen keeps churning and his team mates keep pushing him into the end zone. The offense can push the ball carrier, but they cannot pull him. Note number 79 of the Bills holding his hands up to indicate he is not helping the runner.
Also a good job by umpire Brandon Cruse and others to quickly converge on the pile in the end zone to untangle the pile and keep a lid on excited or frustrated players.
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Post by wjl on Dec 10, 2023 18:04:12 GMT -5
U 102 Stritesky appears to be working Den - Lac game
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