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Post by fan on Dec 6, 2010 0:19:11 GMT -5
During the Pitt/Baltimore game Sunday night, when Flaco fumbled to set up the winning TD, Al Michaels was really focused on whether Flaco's arm was going forward. Replay clearly showed that his arm was not going forward, and it clearly was the correct call.
However, even if his arm HAD BEEN going forward, the ball shot backwards about five yards. It has always been my understanding that when a pass goes backwards, it is a backwards pass and is a live ball. Am I mistaken?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2010 0:51:38 GMT -5
if i'm correct, so long as his arm is going forward, then it is just an incompletion even if it goes backwards. while backwards passes are live, because his arm is going forward and then falls incomplete, its just imcomplete. its one of those weird rules. someone feel free to correct me if i was wrong or to add more intormation, i'm no expert.
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Post by BTFS Admin on Dec 6, 2010 1:25:21 GMT -5
Correct. It's all about the arm motion here. If the intent is forward, it is an incomplete pass.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 6, 2010 1:28:46 GMT -5
I've seen QB's cock their arms, get spun around while he is starting the throwing motion, and the pass actually is thrown backward. However, this is ruled an incomplete pass because the QB didn't MEAN to throw it backward, the defender spun him around. It is a very tough judgement call.
A more probable act is when the QB cocks his arm and is hit from behind. The ball pops out making for an "empty hands" pass. This is most likely ruled a fumble.
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Post by JAYJAYSTRIPES on Dec 6, 2010 7:17:42 GMT -5
What if in the forward motion the pass accidently slides off the QB's hand, isn't that considered a fumble and live ball?
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Post by fan on Dec 7, 2010 7:54:54 GMT -5
Thanks, guys. Is this rule unique to the NFL?
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 7, 2010 11:20:10 GMT -5
What if in the forward motion the pass accidently slides off the QB's hand, isn't that considered a fumble and live ball? If the arm goes forward but the ball stays behind it is a fumble. It is a tough judgement call. |
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Post by BTFS Admin on Dec 7, 2010 14:43:24 GMT -5
That would be a case of the "empty hand". Yes, that would be a fumble JayJay.
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