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Post by impz45 on May 14, 2011 23:59:18 GMT -5
O'Nora should be up for Crew Chief over the next few openings.
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Post by mike on May 15, 2011 5:48:27 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if O'Nora and Everitt are among the first of the 1999 hires that become Crew Chiefs, but there are a number ahead of them who are probably in line for the position first:
Jim Joyce Wally Bell Larry Vanover Ted Barrett Kerwin Danley Jeff Nelson Fieldin Culbreth Jerry Meals
Due to the mass of umpires hired at one time, a number of quality umpires will never have the opportunity to be a Crew Chief
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Post by FredFan7 on May 15, 2011 14:32:22 GMT -5
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Post by impz45 on May 15, 2011 14:44:00 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I feel Jim Joyce and Wally Bell have been previously passed over. O'Nora, Everitt , Nelson and Barrett I feel will get 4 out of next 5 crew chief assignments.
If jim Joyce becomes a crew chief I feel he will take over when Cousins retires.
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Post by FredFan7 on May 15, 2011 20:50:23 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on May 18, 2011 10:02:29 GMT -5
Jerry Meals ejects Eric Wedge over a play at second. It was close when we see the ground level replay from the third base line. I thought he blew it sky high until I saw that angle. Now, I'm not so sure. mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=14908537
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Post by JugglingReferee on May 19, 2011 6:26:41 GMT -5
Jerry Meals ejects Eric Wedge over a play at second. It was close when we see the ground level replay from the third base line. I thought he blew it sky high until I saw that angle. Now, I'm not so sure. mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=14908537I got him out. To see that in real time and make that call.... wow!
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Post by cj on May 19, 2011 15:32:38 GMT -5
Our deal friend Phil Cuzzi at it again...replay not available yet; I'm sure somebody will put it up. Top of the ninth, Mets up 1-0. One out guy on second...hot smash to third. Met third baseman spins around, doesn't notice the runner coming from second and throws to first. Werth not only beats the ball, clearly, but Met first baseman is off the bag. Phil Cuzzi, bless his heart, makes the out call. Riggelman somehow doesn't get ejected but at some point, it has to be noted Phil Cuzzi may not be of major league calibar.
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Post by mike on May 19, 2011 19:18:36 GMT -5
mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2011_05_19_wasmlb_nynmlb_1&mode=videoThe link is available at the right. On replay it is actually a much closer call because 1) the ball appears to enter the 1B glove as the runner is touching the base and 2) from the angle down the line that would be similar to what Cuzzi would be looking at, since the toe spiked in the ground and the heel came up on that angle you cannot tell if the sole is or is not on the bag, it is only from the camera looking across the diamond do you clearly see the foot off the bag That being said, I think Cuzzi got the call wrong
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Post by cball1985 on May 19, 2011 19:22:10 GMT -5
Our deal friend Phil Cuzzi at it again...replay not available yet; I'm sure somebody will put it up. Top of the ninth, Mets up 1-0. One out guy on second...hot smash to third. Met third baseman spins around, doesn't notice the runner coming from second and throws to first. Werth not only beats the ball, clearly, but Met first baseman is off the bag. Phil Cuzzi, bless his heart, makes the out call. Riggelman somehow doesn't get ejected but at some point, it has to be noted Phil Cuzzi may not be of major league calibar. Video of that play: mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=14954163
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Post by impz45 on May 20, 2011 10:36:17 GMT -5
Tough call from Phil Cuzzi's angle. We have the benefit of the replay angle. Is it me or is it the same three or four umpires always in the thick of things(controversy). When was the last time an umpire was terminated over performance? In his book Uppity, Bill White talks about discussions with Doug Harvey during his last year concerning his knees, and sending him out in style. Doug wanted to work until 65 but retired at 62 over knee problems. Dutch Rennert was spoken to from team complaints over missed calls believed to be attributed to an eye problem, Fred Brocklander knee issues, Joe West and Ritchie Phillips over attitude and an unnamed Crew Chief (Bob Engel) for shoplifting, who was eventually allowed to retire with full benefits.
In addition, Bill White sent a tape to Jerry Crawford showing him a video in which he stayed to long in an arguement.....Crawford responded back positively, changed, and was ranked number one that year....
Let's see how Joe Torre handles umpire performance and Umpire's Union.
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Post by cj on May 20, 2011 11:17:31 GMT -5
I don't really remember any umpire in modern days losing his job due to incompetence...generally it becomes obvious pretty quickly (although one has to wonder how a guy like Angel Hernandez has lasted so long or how Bob Davidson got away for years with making up his own rules concerning balks)....of course the NL dumped a couple of the scab umpires; whether it was for incompetence I can't tell (Brocklander?)...Pallone was dumped but the official reason was his involvement with some very questionable activities (leave it at that). Now if they did begin getting rid of umpires for incompetence, Cuzzi would clearly be at the top of the list and I am sorry...while coming off the base was a tough call...out of safe at first is a call a major league umpire should never miss with proper technique....I could see clearly the guy was safe watching the game on television (and what was the excuse on the Mauer "foul" ball or missing the tag play at San Francisco last year?)
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Post by nyasablue on May 20, 2011 11:21:53 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on May 20, 2011 12:27:33 GMT -5
I don't think that we'll see any full time umpires dropped because of performance because the Triple-A call-up system weeds out umpires who can't cut it. Look on retrosheet and you'll see vacation umpires who are up for a couple of years work around 100 games, and are dropped. I think the front office will help encourage an umpire to retire if he's lost it, but I strongly doubt they'll issue pink slips like they do in the NFL.
If you ever want to stump someone, ask them who was the umpire for Kenny Rogers perfect came in 1994. The umpire was Ed Bean. Bean was a call-up umpire that year, worked 36 games, and never worked any seasons after that.
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Post by cj on May 20, 2011 12:35:55 GMT -5
I don't think that we'll see any full time umpires dropped because of performance because the Triple-A call-up system weeds out umpires who can't cut it. Look on retrosheet and you'll see vacation umpires who are up for a couple of years work around 100 games, and are dropped. I think the front office will help encourage an umpire to retire if he's lost it, but I strongly doubt they'll issue pink slips like they do in the NFL. If you ever want to stump someone, ask them who was the umpire for Kenny Rogers perfect came in 1994. The umpire was Ed Bean. Bean was a call-up umpire that year, worked 36 games, and never worked any seasons after that. But is that a good thing? I realize we all have opinions and we would like to believe that jhe fact a guy makes it to the major leagues means he must have some ability and only the best of the best make it...we would all like to believe that and while I have no doubt for the most part that's true, every type of organization will have some factors other than pure ability where politics intercede. There has been talk of why Angel Hernandez has been retained so long (I'm not saying it's so but there's always that mentioned about him).....the closest we can to this was the whole thing with the umpire's resignation and the ubsequent rescinding of the resignations and which recinds were accepted and the later arbitration hearings on several of them.....of course a few umpires never got their jobs back no so much for lack of ability but for age reasons or health issues (Gregg, Kaiser?)....I suppose we don't know all the answers, we don't know all the ratin gs...what with the way they now chart balls and strikes perhaps they are all outstanding ball and strike umpires and we really don't know what they know (in the same ways we sit here all football season and tell the world x is a Super Bowl referee or any other position and y is on the bubble and z has no change and then when the playoff officials are named, we're wrong as much as we're right). But after a while, I would hope everybody can admit and see, with a guy like Cuzzi enough is enough (or am I missing something).
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