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Post by FredFan7 on Nov 17, 2011 13:19:10 GMT -5
Broncos-Jets on NFLN. Leavy's crew on the call. I won't be able to see it, so please observe away for me!  |
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Post by zcr57 on Nov 17, 2011 22:01:27 GMT -5
Other than a couple of easy reviews, it was a smooth 1st half for Leavy's crew.
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Post by JugglingReferee on Nov 17, 2011 22:35:06 GMT -5
Great call upholding the Jets' TD!
/fan
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Post by russ on Nov 17, 2011 22:57:04 GMT -5
I think there were 2 different instances where RTP could have been called on Von Miller. Leavy has always been one of the refs who holds off on calling RTP and I have to say I prefer that to someone like Cheffers, Parry or Riveron who call RTP if the QB is even lightly touched. This is football, people should get hit!
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Post by zcr57 on Nov 17, 2011 23:45:40 GMT -5
Solid 3.9 for Leavy's crew. They let the two teams play football, which is all you can ask for.
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Post by I've been warned on Nov 18, 2011 0:15:23 GMT -5
Agreed. It's a contact sport, and there was contact tonight. Nothing malicious IMO, but hard-hitting football.
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Post by JAYJAYSTRIPES on Nov 18, 2011 9:12:19 GMT -5
MD...
It's a collision sport, it's more than just contact....that being said, this don't hit him too hard or I'll hit you in the pocketbook idea Goodell has for this sport is ridiculous. Do we want to put tutu's and ballerina slippers on the QB's? Put bumper pads on RB's?
The way this game is being called is insane. It is ruined by some of the stupid ludicrous penalty calls. You can't blame the officials, this is what the boss wants, and like it or not, follow the rules or get dumped by the league.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2011 10:51:40 GMT -5
Leavy's crew always lets their teams play "Football", and that is how it should be !!!
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Post by cj on Nov 18, 2011 11:00:53 GMT -5
Like almost all our sports today, pro football is being played at a speed and on a level incomprehensible to those who wrote the rules seventy years ago. The field is the same size, the ball is the same size basically but the athletes are bigger, faster, sturdier than possibly could have been imagined whether it's football, basketball, ice hockey and even baseball although perhaps not to the same degree.
I respect everybody here who officiates due to their love of the game and it's easy to sit back and compare our experiences as a high school, jv or whatever official to those in the big show. I did that as a high school baseball umpire forty years ago but it's nowhere near comparable to standing behind home plate with a major league fast ball bearing down on you or even on the bases at third base with the ball flying at you with speed nothinhg like you're used to on the high school diamond.
Why am I saying this? Am I gong off topicd? No, I'm not. Officiating on the top level in this day and age is a combination of knowing the rules and exercisiong common sense. The rules are a guide but in a micro second you have to decide if indeed some play was an infracdtion namely led to an unfair advantage outside the rules for one side or the other or ikncidentla to the conduct of the game. If we called every last infraction in hockey or in football strictly by the "book", we would quickly lose spectator interest in the game. You're never going to get every single official looking at every single play exactly the same way, it's impossible. Call everything and we all know you don't have a game enjoyable by the spectators. I've watched several NFL games this year that were totally unwatchable because of the number of what I considered ticky tack penalties being c alled. Nobody is saying not to call false starts or neutral zone violations or whatever. But some roughing the passer calls are weak. Others are missed. Some helmet to helmet against a defenseless receiver are weak, others are missed. Some pass interference calls are very weak, others are missed.
As a fan, I want to watch the game and let the players decide the outcome. I don't want some ticky tack illegal contact called 5 yards and 1 inch from the los if it doesn't affect the play say if the pass goes to the other side. I don't want some pass interference penalty called late in the game if both players have an equal chance for the ball or to reward a quarterback for not throwing the pass deep endough. The game was meant to be decdided by the players.
In that sense, I thought the officiating last night was fine. The players were allowed to play the game despite the fact there was some hard hiktting. That doesn't mean a high school game should be called the same way but it sometimes becomes very tough on this board, although fun to read, to listen to the whining how official x missed 3 obvious holds. Philosophically better to "miss" as marginal call or err on the side of not making the call than to make a game deciding call on some borderline play.
Just what my training taught me years ago.
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