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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 7, 2012 18:38:07 GMT -5
I was reading an article last night about the 8 officials who were fired in 2003 (1 was rehired) and it said there were a lot of officials canned after the 2001 season (some other retired). Does anyone know which ones were released after that '01 season (I think Frantz and Gierke retired on their own but I dont think Keven Mack did). Several officials were fired for performance issues after 2003. One (I believe it was Spitler) was hired back. I'm pretty sure that most, if not all, turnover this year will be retirements.
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Post by teo on Jan 8, 2012 0:17:29 GMT -5
the following left after the 2001 season: 110 Botchan,50 Gereb,111 Frantz,104 Hamer, 72 Gierke,22 Baetz,80 Millis,102 Mack,76 Leisbach,73 Skelton - Botchan was probably the best NFL umpire,Millis became a supervisor, Baetz,Gierke and Frantz I believe retired - Mack and Leisbach were released (pretty sure) - Hamer and Skelton It was Liebsack, not Leisbach. I do remember that HL Sanford Rivers and Tom Johnson also were retired/released a year later.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2012 0:34:00 GMT -5
Johnson was the 02 season. I'm talking only after the '01 season. Rivers was fired, appealed, suspended for '02 season, came back in '03 and left after '03 to join the PA gaming board.
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Post by woody83 on Jan 8, 2012 21:06:43 GMT -5
Dean Look also retired prior to the 2002 season. I believe his last game was the infamous "Tuck Rule" game in January 2002.
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Post by JugglingReferee on Jan 8, 2012 22:13:32 GMT -5
Dean Look also retired prior to the 2002 season. I believe his last game was the infamous "Tuck Rule" game in January 2002. So then there's more than 1 official who hasn't done an Oakland game since! ;D
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Post by teo on Jan 11, 2012 17:35:14 GMT -5
Dean Look also retired prior to the 2002 season. I believe his last game was the infamous "Tuck Rule" game in January 2002. I thought Look was active for the 2002 season, but he was a swing official and worked only a few games (injury?).
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 11, 2012 18:03:11 GMT -5
Look took his annual physical prior to the start of the 2002 season. A regular checkup revealed something suspicious. Look was jogging on the beach prior to receiving the results that he needed to get a cardiogram. It revealed a blockage. He underwent triple bypass and retired after 28 seasons.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 16, 2012 15:55:30 GMT -5
Interesting that we haven't heard any information yet.
Could potential retirees be waiting for the new contract?
Or, could everyone be back for 2012?!
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Post by impz45 on Jan 16, 2012 16:04:18 GMT -5
My feelings are the potential retirees are awaiting new contract.
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Post by zebrablog on Jan 16, 2012 22:12:57 GMT -5
Keep in mind that last offseason was Carl Johnson's first one in the chair to make personnel decisions. There were two rookie hires and no retirements, voluntary or forced.
If everyone is back in 2012, there is going to be a year of big turnover in 2013 or 2014. Added to this are some very experienced white hats, who, while they are not showing any signs of slowing down, have been officiating longer than the players have been alive.
The officiating department started rolling out the "officiating academy" at the beginning of the season. (By the way, looks like the bosses didn't appreciate them setting up a twitter feed.) Could this be a sign that they see a huge amount of turnover in the near future?
Also, I hate to speculate about such matters, but does it say something when a 23-year veteran is assigned to Honolulu?
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Post by becky10 on Jan 16, 2012 22:35:08 GMT -5
Keep in mind that last offseason was Carl Johnson's first one in the chair to make personnel decisions. There were two rookie hires and no retirements, voluntary or forced. If everyone is back in 2012, there is going to be a year of big turnover in 2013 or 2014. Added to this are some very experienced white hats, who, while they are not showing any signs of slowing down, have been officiating longer than the players have been alive. The officiating department started rolling out the "officiating academy" at the beginning of the season. (By the way, looks like the bosses didn't appreciate them setting up a twitter feed.) Could this be a sign that they see a huge amount of turnover in the near future? zebrablog.... correct on the NFL Officiating Twitter Acct had to be taken down............. due to NFL & Twitter...... they do not go hand in hand!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2012 23:20:22 GMT -5
Any word on officials who are being let go because of performance?
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 16, 2012 23:38:42 GMT -5
Any word on officials who are being let go because of performance? If any are, we probably won't know. The front office never tells why an official leaves the league. If we ever find out why an official leaves the league, it'll probably be from the official himself.
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Post by zebrablog on Jan 24, 2012 12:56:32 GMT -5
As a follow-up to the ponderable "gold watch" (Pro Bowl assignment) for Walt Coleman I made a few posts back, I was going back through my archives, and I found this quote from Walt C. in Feb. 2009: “I’d be 61 if I’m in the league 25 years,” Coleman said. “Not many people can say that they’ve been in the league 25 years, so that would be nice.” That would be 2013, but he has worked three seasons since he made those comments. Plenty of time to reflect since then.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 24, 2012 13:08:28 GMT -5
Mr. Coleman joining the NFL at age 36 is VERY impressive.
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