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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 29, 2011 23:36:01 GMT -5
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Post by hank on Dec 29, 2011 23:42:11 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 29, 2011 23:53:58 GMT -5
Who is Doug Farrar?
Officials constantly get ripped by loudmouth buffoons every week - sometimes justifiably so. Usually not.
Its about time the officiating community has a strong voice to call shenanigans on some of this bloviating.
But, alas, Farrar wants cool points from the NFL jocks and NFL media, so this......
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Post by russ on Dec 30, 2011 1:40:32 GMT -5
I agree with Farrar in a sense that Periera is being a little unprofessional in his article. Calling someone a blowheard and saying you don't respect them is not a good way to write an article. That being said, I agree with Mike that Gruden should try to learn the rules before commenting on them saying that clearly correct calls are incorrect. I also wish he would let the damn tuck rule go. He brings it up everytime Coleman refs a MNF game. But I wish Pereira would have been the bigger man and just not said anything.
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Post by hank on Dec 30, 2011 22:34:29 GMT -5
I agree with Farrar in a sense that Periera is being a little unprofessional in his article. Calling someone a blowheard and saying you don't respect them is not a good way to write an article. That being said, I agree with Mike that Gruden should try to learn the rules before commenting on them saying that clearly correct calls are incorrect. I also wish he would let the damn tuck rule go. He brings it up everytime Coleman refs a MNF game. But I wish Pereira would have been the bigger man and just not said anything. Also, media writers, like Farrar, typically write editorials without any accountability or "checks and balances". They do not know rules and are not always professional themselves.
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Post by I've been warned on Dec 30, 2011 22:49:16 GMT -5
One HUGE difference in all of this "analysis" is that MP is one who spent years and years learning, studying, applying and enforcing football rules and then evaluating others' ability to do the same. That qualifies him to critique Gruden's understanding of them. Farrar, to the best of my knowledge, has never officiated football at any level, so that immediately DISQUALIFIES him to critique MP's opinion.
If Farrar wants to opine on MP's strong resentment for Gruden as a broadcaster by his use of the words loudmouth and blowhard; fine, let him. But not football rule knowledge... no way. I'd put Mike up against anyone all week and twice on Sunday (pun intended.)
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Post by BTFS Admin on Dec 31, 2011 1:07:18 GMT -5
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Post by becky10 on Dec 31, 2011 1:31:22 GMT -5
One HUGE difference in all of this "analysis" is that MP is one who spent years and years learning, studying, applying and enforcing football rules and then evaluating others' ability to do the same. That qualifies him to critique Gruden's understanding of them. Farrar, to the best of my knowledge, has never officiated football at any level, so that immediately DISQUALIFIES him to critique MP's opinion. If Farrar wants to opine on MP's strong resentment for Gruden as a broadcaster by his use of the words loudmouth and blowhard; fine, let him. But not football rule knowledge... no way. I'd put Mike up against anyone all week and twice on Sunday (pun intended.) >>>> Thank u MDHutton!!!!!!
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Post by mike on Dec 31, 2011 6:44:15 GMT -5
One HUGE difference in all of this "analysis" is that MP is one who spent years and years learning, studying, applying and enforcing football rules and then evaluating others' ability to do the same. That qualifies him to critique Gruden's understanding of them. Farrar, to the best of my knowledge, has never officiated football at any level, so that immediately DISQUALIFIES him to critique MP's opinion. If Farrar wants to opine on MP's strong resentment for Gruden as a broadcaster by his use of the words loudmouth and blowhard; fine, let him. But not football rule knowledge... no way. I'd put Mike up against anyone all week and twice on Sunday (pun intended.) So nobody is allowed to critique MP's rule interpretations unless they have officiated themselves? The rulebook is publicly available. If MP is commenting in his role as sports writer that leaves him open to critique for everything. It would be quite different if someone got a hold of private memoranda commenting on specific officials while he was director of officiating and published them
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Post by I've been warned on Dec 31, 2011 6:54:23 GMT -5
In essence, yes.
Just because a rulebook is publicly available doesn't give anyone off the street license to obtain a copy and then consider themselves an authority on it. No way.
Think about it - how many parents have we all had on the sidelines at one time or another who considered themselves experts, knew more than we did and who were judge and jury to the job we did that day ?
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Post by zcr57 on Dec 31, 2011 9:50:01 GMT -5
In essence, yes. Just because a rulebook is publicly available doesn't give anyone off the street license to obtain a copy and then consider themselves an authority on it. No way. Think about it - how many parents have we all had on the sidelines at one time or another who considered themselves experts, knew more than we did and who were judge and jury to the job we did that day ? Amen to that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2011 9:52:01 GMT -5
As my dad used to say, you can't argue with ignorance...Gruden should get himself a rulebook, and then read it.
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Post by JAYJAYSTRIPES on Dec 31, 2011 12:20:03 GMT -5
Gruden would have to know how to read first, of course there's also Dierdorf and Musberger too, those clowns drive me to distraction. I agree with your stance MD, very well put. In all reality, you can buy the book, but until you actually get on the field in the heat of battle, in real time, a person has NO IDEA what it's really like out there, and should hold their judgement. Put some of those clowns from the booth out on the field and let them see what it's really like.
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