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Post by cball1985 on Jan 15, 2012 13:58:25 GMT -5
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Post by mike on Jan 15, 2012 14:02:33 GMT -5
If they are going to do that why not make 17 full time?
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 15, 2012 14:17:31 GMT -5
This could be a major negotiating point in the NFLRA contract after this season. Who gets full time? What about the current observers and film graders in the front office? Will it only be referees? What this cause a performance gap between full time and part time officials?
Bill Carollo comments in the book The Third Team (http://thethirdteam.com/) about fill time officials and he makes some very interesting points against the proposal. I'll transcribe that part of the book sometime this week.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 16:41:29 GMT -5
I think the veteran members could be full time e.g. Mike Carey Ed Hochuli and others but it would depend on whats going on in the negotiations. I think this is a good question to ask Mike Pereria in his chat this week.
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Post by intheknow on Jan 15, 2012 18:13:20 GMT -5
Ed Hochuli is a trial lawyer and a partner in a law firm...Guessing he makes more than about $120K in that job...
Mike Carey, a successful business owner. Makes a lot of $$$.
The two guys you chose are bad examples of guys who would go full-time IMO because the opportunity costs are too great.
The guys that would consider full-time are guys that are most likely retired from their day jobs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 18:33:25 GMT -5
Ed Hochuli is a trial lawyer and a partner in a law firm...Guessing he makes more than about $120K in that job... Mike Carey, a successful business owner. Makes a lot of $$$. The two guys you chose are bad examples of guys who would go full-time IMO because the opportunity costs are too great. The guys that would consider full-time are guys that are most likely retired from their day jobs. like Bill Leavy. |
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Post by becky10 on Jan 15, 2012 18:36:39 GMT -5
Ed Hochuli is a trial lawyer and a partner in a law firm...Guessing he makes more than about $120K in that job... I am thinking R-85 is making around $150K per yr in #NFL..... that only covers his Taxes on his $2.4 Mill condo in San Diego and his $900 home in Phoenix, AZ |
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Post by hank on Jan 15, 2012 18:46:16 GMT -5
homes only cost $900 in Arizona ;D
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Post by becky10 on Jan 15, 2012 18:56:11 GMT -5
homes only cost $900 in Arizona ;D Ooooops $900K  in Arizona |
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Post by I've been warned on Jan 15, 2012 20:17:34 GMT -5
Ed Hochuli is a trial lawyer and a partner in a law firm...Guessing he makes more than about $120K in that job... Mike Carey, a successful business owner. Makes a lot of $$$. The two guys you chose are bad examples of guys who would go full-time IMO because the opportunity costs are too great. The guys that would consider full-time are guys that are most likely retired from their day jobs. like Bill Leavy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2012 20:22:25 GMT -5
As ESPNs Jemele Hill might say on twitter, #realtears |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 0:57:27 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2012 16:00:40 GMT -5
Full time officials are not needed. The current offcials spend more time on football than they do on their so called full time job. When coaches say all they want is consistancy don't believe it they want every call to go their way. The only way to be consistant is to call everything or call nothing . No 2 people or going to have the exact same concept on what's holding or pass interference is . The NFL DOES NOT HAVE AN OFFICATING PROBLEM
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 20, 2012 15:10:08 GMT -5
Bill Carollo says economics will be a major factor concerning making officials full time. Carollo says officials are 98-and-change% accurate already, so the NFL is getting a pretty good return on its investment. If officials would go full time, it would cost the NFL at least double the costs in salary, benefits, health insurance. Carollo says no matter how much an official trains, they will still make mistakes. Will the NFL want to spend millions of dollars for a one percent improvement in accuracy and quality? If I'm an owner, I say no, leave them part-time. Carollo's thoughts came in the book The Third Team. www.thethirdteam.com |
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Post by mike on Jan 20, 2012 17:09:57 GMT -5
FredFan you can also look at it as cutting mistakes by 50%
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