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Post by tuckerewell on Jan 23, 2012 2:13:22 GMT -5
Riveron did do a good job in keep game under control. Did DVR game and NE should've challenged the Gronkowski incompletion. At first I thought it was not a catch but replay showed, to me, that it was.
Holding up the game shouldn't be a consideration for not using replay.
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Post by JAYJAYSTRIPES on Jan 23, 2012 7:23:00 GMT -5
Based on what I saw this season, I thought with Riveron at the helm this game was going to be a goat rodeo....suprized at the performance. I'd say 3.8 for performance.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 23, 2012 9:46:55 GMT -5
Based on what I saw this season, I thought with Riveron at the helm this game was going to be a goat rodeo....suprized at the performance. I'd say 3.8 for performance. Riveron really stepped it up yesterday and moved himself forward in my estimation. Now, he needs to sustain that level of performance going into 2012.
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Post by cj on Jan 23, 2012 9:50:02 GMT -5
Neither losing team can blame anything the official did or didn't do for their defeats. That's all you can ask for. Top grades for both crews.
(Although reading some of the comments from the Baltimore papers this morning, there was a sense that at the very least the play with Lee Evans should have been reviewed. I'll tell you, it was very very close..in looking at the replays, I don't think at any point he had clear possession and was able to take two steps but it was a judgment call and no way it would have been overturned (as contrasted with the Greg Jennings play where I believe he did establish control with one hand for a couple of steps). It is a very murky rule of just when possession is established in the end zone because the instant it is, the ball is dead and it is a touchdown. I think they got that one right and a replay would have had to let the original judgment stand. But other than that, there was nothing to write home about the games.
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Post by howard63 on Jan 23, 2012 10:14:57 GMT -5
Two very well officiated championship games. Both crews have a lot to be proud of. By the way, I think Al Riveron's mic work was very good yesterday.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 23, 2012 10:34:40 GMT -5
Riveron chases the action:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 10:43:00 GMT -5
i agree Riveron's mic work was great. I like that he immediately says "This play will stand" or whatever the appropriate answer is. His crew has always been mediocre at best compared to others, and we saw yesterday with a solid crew, how good he'd look/be
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 16:59:15 GMT -5
Regarding the Lee Evans play Steve Zimmer had a great view of the play and was sure it was not a catch. I wish the broadcasters would mention the officials by name more.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jan 23, 2012 17:11:51 GMT -5
Regarding the Lee Evans play Steve Zimmer had a great view of the play and was sure it was not a catch. I wish the broadcasters would mention the officials by name more. Joe Buck mentioned Carlsen by name on that first TD that was reviewed. That was nice.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2012 17:42:59 GMT -5
If the Evans non catch was reviewed it would have saved a lot of criticism on the officials. When the stakes are this high that no catch call meant the difference between wining and losing.
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Post by BTFS Admin on Jan 23, 2012 23:54:17 GMT -5
Well, if it makes everyone feel better, then go ahead and review it. But it's the Calvin Johnson rule - you have to maintain possession throughout the process. Thought it was an easy call of incomplete.
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Post by tuckerewell on Jan 24, 2012 2:57:28 GMT -5
The use of review to ensure a correct call should never be avoided because "it slows down the game" or "as a formality, to appease fans". Replay review is a vital tool. Problems arise is every possible situation in life as soon as any leader, judge, manager, etc., takes the approach that they are right and their decisions are absolute and unquestionable. This was not an easy call. It appears to be the right call but I watched the video 10 times and as "incomplete passes" go it was not quite that easy of a call. Replay should be embraced and in this case, during the last 2 minutes of the AFC Conference Championship game, a review should've been initiated. Baltimore deserved that.
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Post by Brent on Jan 24, 2012 11:54:49 GMT -5
Again I have to disagree with tuckerwell about when replay should be used in the final 2 minutes of a game. The use of replay is to be used to correct obvious and indisputable calls that are wrong. The replay official is an official just like the guys on the field, if in his judgement, there is nothing that needs to be reviewed in a play, then that is his judgement, just like the guys on the field. These men are paid to use their judgement. It seems obvious that most fans might think that play should be reviewed, but if you know the rules, as Mike Pereria does, it turns from a controversial play into an obvious incomplete pass as Evans never completed the process of the catch. If Mike Pereria can tweet out that it was obviously no catch in about 5 seconds after the play ends, then for sure the replay official can use the same judgement and rule just as fast that there was no reason to initiate the replay.
I highly doubt the replay official said, "I don't think we should replay this because it would take to long" I think they used their judgement and rules a replay was not needed. Happens all the time, in just about every game. Just because it is a championship game does not mean that the judgement of the replay official should be ignored.
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