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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2012 11:15:13 GMT -5
Cory Blaser filled in for Joe West in Toronto on Monday night. Joe was at second base for yesterday's Rangers-Blue Jays game. Jerry Layne's crew did have Orioles-Yankees. Ah yeah. I'm behind a day, and I was flipping between NYY-Balt and Tex-Tor. Couldn't have been tuesday cuz I was out all night... regardless, Cory Blaser's strike zone was eeessh.
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Post by timdaye on May 3, 2012 12:31:39 GMT -5
It does look like Welke was straight lined and didn't get a good angle. Or it could have been brain flatulence. I go with positioning. It was possible that the HP umpire, trailing the play up the line, might have been able to help had Welke asked for it. Welke must have known he had kicked it because he gave Mattingly a LONG leash. Mattingly was showing him up by gesturing how wide the first baseman was off the bag. I think Welke fell asleep on that play. The home plate umpire should have stepped up to help make the correct call. Maybe the HP ump didn't step up because Welke is the crew chief... This is what pisses me off about MLB umpires. Most of them (notice I said "most" and not "all") will not ask for help. Their egos are bigger than getting the call right. So what if Welke is the Sr. umpire / crew chief. He blew that call badly. Maybe he had a bad angle, may a brain fart... who knows. But he should have asked for help in the best interest of the game. Joe Torre (or whoever is in charge of these guys now) really needs to start cracking down. This play was easily correctable had Welke asked for help.
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Post by FredFan7 on May 3, 2012 14:09:29 GMT -5
I think Welke fell asleep on that play. The home plate umpire should have stepped up to help make the correct call. Maybe the HP ump didn't step up because Welke is the crew chief... This is what pisses me off about MLB umpires. Most of them (notice I said "most" and not "all") will not ask for help. Their egos are bigger than getting the call right. So what if Welke is the Sr. umpire / crew chief. He blew that call badly. Maybe he had a bad angle, may a brain fart... who knows. But he should have asked for help in the best interest of the game. Joe Torre (or whoever is in charge of these guys now) really needs to start cracking down. This play was easily correctable had Welke asked for help. And if another umpire saw it. At the amateur level the HP umpire can help on a pulled foot at first base (this exact play). I wonder if the HP umpire saw it in this instance.
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Post by howard63 on May 3, 2012 16:47:26 GMT -5
Rule 9.02 (c): "No umpire shall criticize, seek to reverse or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked to do so by the umpire making it." Plate umpire Paul Schreiber couldn't have gotten involved unless Tim Welke asked for help, which he clearly should have. That kind of mistake is not acceptable from a major league umpire.
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Post by FredFan7 on May 3, 2012 18:19:57 GMT -5
Rule 9.02 (c): "No umpire shall criticize, seek to reverse or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked to do so by the umpire making it." Plate umpire Paul Schreiber couldn't have gotten involved unless Tim Welke asked for help, which he clearly should have. Which is a good thing. I wonder if crews have an informal mechanic to let the calling umpire know that his partner has some important information and it might be good to get help. Nothing big - something like stand with you cap off or hands behind your back or something to signal the calling umpire "come to me and I'll bail you out."
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Post by JugglingReferee on May 3, 2012 18:49:40 GMT -5
Rule 9.02 (c): "No umpire shall criticize, seek to reverse or interfere with another umpire's decision unless asked to do so by the umpire making it." Plate umpire Paul Schreiber couldn't have gotten involved unless Tim Welke asked for help, which he clearly should have. Which is a good thing. I wonder if crews have an informal mechanic to let the calling umpire know that his partner has some important information and it might be good to get help. Nothing big - something like stand with you cap off or hands behind your back or something to signal the calling umpire "come to me and I'll bail you out." Like.
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Post by timdaye on May 4, 2012 12:43:02 GMT -5
Which is a good thing. I wonder if crews have an informal mechanic to let the calling umpire know that his partner has some important information and it might be good to get help. Nothing big - something like stand with you cap off or hands behind your back or something to signal the calling umpire "come to me and I'll bail you out." Like. Just saw ESPN's NOT TOP 10 for this week. Our pal Tim Welke was #1 on the NOT TOP 10. 1st baseman's foot, according to ESPN, was 3.1 feet off the bag. I have a tad bit of insight (emphasis on "tad") on NBA officiating. If an equivalent correctable-error situation had occurred in the NBA and the covering official made no attempt to rectify it, its likely he be suspended for a game or two.
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Post by cball1985 on May 4, 2012 18:15:35 GMT -5
Tonight's Phillies V Nationals game is being worked by a three man crew. According to the announcers Joe West (scheduled to work at 2B) will not be there. The announcers did not give a reason for Joe missing the game. I guess he is sick because if it was a vacation MLB should have had an AAA umpire at the game.
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Post by cball1985 on May 4, 2012 20:36:57 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on May 4, 2012 21:15:49 GMT -5
1. Call inconclusive based on video evidence 2. A very calm ejection 3. Foster has to give up the chaw (see Harvey, Doug)
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Post by FredFan7 on May 4, 2012 21:21:19 GMT -5
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Post by cball1985 on May 5, 2012 21:37:20 GMT -5
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Post by JugglingReferee on May 6, 2012 4:48:55 GMT -5
Tonight's Phillies V Nationals game is being worked by a three man crew. According to the announcers Joe West (scheduled to work at 2B) will not be there. The announcers did not give a reason for Joe missing the game. I guess he is sick because if it was a vacation MLB should have had an AAA umpire at the game. Illness - bad cold.
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Post by FredFan7 on May 6, 2012 20:30:57 GMT -5
Advil and Icepack award to Jame Hoye for working a 17-inning, 6:07 game between the Red Sox and the Orioles. My knees ache just thinking about it.
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Post by russ on May 7, 2012 0:34:56 GMT -5
Advil and Icepack award to Jame Hoye for working a 17-inning, 6:07 game between the Red Sox and the Orioles. My knees ache just thinking about it. He was also wearing short sleeves in sub 50 degree weather.
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