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Post by howard63 on Oct 10, 2012 9:00:15 GMT -5
thought Gerry Davis' strike zone was erratic tonight for Reds-Giants Davis is always like that. Mostly, he is known for having a small strikezone. I agree he was a little erratic but I thought Dana Demuth was awesome during the Tigers-A's game tonight. Demuth is one of the top five umpires in baseball,IMO.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 13, 2012 11:04:41 GMT -5
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Post by mike on Oct 13, 2012 12:43:48 GMT -5
In the comments they seemed to indicate that Tschida, Cousins, and Rapuano are retiring. Even if John Hirschbeck came back who would the 3 replacements be? Jim Joyce would get one but I would be interested in the other two. Bob Davidson is the most senior non-Crew Chief but I would hate to see him leading any crew. Bell, Vanover, and Hernandez are next. Bell has gotten a lot of experience in recent years as a replacement Crew Chief when his regular Crew Chief has been hurt so I would think he would get one spot. Vanover and Hernandez have both been a bit hotheaded in the past although Hernandez has gotten better in recent years. After Hernandez it gets a bit more dicey because you have a number of umpires who were hired in the late 90's first due to retirements then the mass resignation debacle. If I had to guess the permanent crew chiefs would be Joyce, Bell, and either Hernandez or Fieldin Culbreth
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Post by russ on Oct 13, 2012 15:46:50 GMT -5
I think Jeff Nelson is a top candidate for the next CC spot as well. He was hired before 1999 and has a great playoff record. He has also gotten lots of experience the last 2 years filling in for Tim Tschida when he missed time. I don't think Vanover is a leading candidate because he just isn't that good. My top 3 right now are Hernandez,Bell and Nelson in that order. i don't think they are quite ready to make a 1999 guy a CC yet but there are a lot of good guys who would make good CC's. The leaders there would have to be Culbreth,Barrett and Everitt.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 13, 2012 17:08:13 GMT -5
What about Ted Barret? He started in the majors in 1994, but didn't get in full time until 1999.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2012 5:15:29 GMT -5
I'll go with Joyce,Nelson and Hernandez
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Post by russ on Oct 14, 2012 17:50:03 GMT -5
Jeff Nelson ejected Joe Girardi for arguing a safe call at second base. Replays show the call was missed. No video on MLB.com yet
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Post by cj on Oct 14, 2012 19:32:11 GMT -5
Jeff Nelson ejected Joe Girardi for arguing a safe call at second base. Replays show the call was missed. No video on MLB.com yet And Girardi was very vocal after the game that instant replay on such calls is needed and needed now (he was still upset by last night's call at first base). However, most of the proposals for instant replay exclude out/safe on the bases! Of course his team lost 3 nil and the way they're hitting, were lucky to get nil.
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Post by hank on Oct 15, 2012 1:18:19 GMT -5
And Girardi was very vocal after the game that instant replay on such calls is needed and needed now (he was still upset by last night's call at first base). However, most of the proposals for instant replay exclude out/safe on the bases! Of course his team lost 3 nil and the way they're hitting, were lucky to get nil. Girardi should be upset, both calls were poor calls and instant replay would have righted the on-field calls. Attached below is a link and video. I attached this link because it also has a detailed quote from Girardi. Girardi sounds more level headed than you give credit for cj. sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/yet-another-blown-call-could-easily-corrected-replay-012652099--mlb.html
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Post by cj on Oct 15, 2012 5:52:47 GMT -5
And Girardi was very vocal after the game that instant replay on such calls is needed and needed now (he was still upset by last night's call at first base). However, most of the proposals for instant replay exclude out/safe on the bases! Of course his team lost 3 nil and the way they're hitting, were lucky to get nil. Girardi should be upset, both calls were poor calls and instant replay would have righted the on-field calls. Attached below is a link and video. I attached this link because it also has a detailed quote from Girardi. Girardi sounds more level headed than you give credit for cj. sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/yet-another-blown-call-could-easily-corrected-replay-012652099--mlb.htmlI was just reporting and had no ill intent at Girardi (despite my own personal dislike of the Yankees and everything they stand for but that's another story). But there's a big problem in instant replay in baseball that everybody misses. I'll give you an example. Take yesterday's play but put another runner on base circling the bases. The ball is cut off like yesterday and Cano lunges at the runner. The out call is made and everybody starts leaving the field. Meanwhile the runner had been heading home and might have been an easy out at the plate. IR shows the runner was safe. What do you do about the runner who was heading home and might hae been thrown out or might have scored? Sure the play yesterday ir could have "corrected" as nothing else was involved but that isn't always the case.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 15, 2012 8:23:24 GMT -5
And Girardi was very vocal after the game that instant replay on such calls is needed and needed now (he was still upset by last night's call at first base). However, most of the proposals for instant replay exclude out/safe on the bases! Of course his team lost 3 nil and the way they're hitting, were lucky to get nil. Girardi should be upset, both calls were poor calls and instant replay would have righted the on-field calls. Attached below is a link and video. I attached this link because it also has a detailed quote from Girardi. Girardi sounds more level headed than you give credit for cj. sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/yet-another-blown-call-could-easily-corrected-replay-012652099--mlb.htmlI can see where Nelson got tripped up. When the runner does the "hand trick" where he moves his hand to avoid the tag, it seems like 90% of the time he ends up safe. Not this time.
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Post by mike on Oct 15, 2012 8:43:08 GMT -5
I was just reporting and had no ill intent at Girardi (despite my own personal dislike of the Yankees and everything they stand for but that's another story). But there's a big problem in instant replay in baseball that everybody misses. I'll give you an example. Take yesterday's play but put another runner on base circling the bases. The ball is cut off like yesterday and Cano lunges at the runner. The out call is made and everybody starts leaving the field. Meanwhile the runner had been heading home and might have been an easy out at the plate. IR shows the runner was safe. What do you do about the runner who was heading home and might hae been thrown out or might have scored? Sure the play yesterday ir could have "corrected" as nothing else was involved but that isn't always the case. The runner going home would likely have been placed at 3rd base because there was no guarantee he would have scored and would fall under the umpire's discretion to place runners (for example on fan interference it is not an automatic double with the runner on first going to third if the runner scored before the fan interference or even without the interference would have scored)
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Post by impz45 on Oct 16, 2012 5:22:50 GMT -5
My thoughts, if there were 3 Crew Chief Openings would be Angel Hernandez, Wall Bell, Ted Barrett.
I have Culbreath, Nelson, O'Nora, Everitt not far behind and deserving. I would have gone with Nelson until he had two issues in Post Season. Also, would John Hirschbeck assume the Crew Chief position. Only bring up, as I thought several years ago, Dave Phillips missed significant time and came back not as a Crew Chief. I could be wrong.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 16, 2012 8:42:35 GMT -5
My thoughts, if there were 3 Crew Chief Openings would be Angel Hernandez, Wall Bell, Ted Barrett. I have Culbreath, Nelson, O'Nora, Everitt not far behind and deserving. I would have gone with Nelson until he had two issues in Post Season. Also, would John Hirschbeck assume the Crew Chief position. Only bring up, as I thought several years ago, Dave Phillips missed significant time and came back not as a Crew Chief. I could be wrong. I believe Dave Phillips missed most or all of 2000 due to injury. He worked 2001 on a crew with Dale Scott as crew chief. He worked opening day at Cincinatti in 2002 with John Schulock as crew chief, but injured his knee and was forced to retire after only one game in 2002.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 29, 2012 10:15:06 GMT -5
The World Series went out with a wimper and not a bang this year. Not many things to complain about umpiring wise.
Now, we'll see if there is any roster turnover in the offseason.
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