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Post by zebrablog on Dec 14, 2014 19:13:54 GMT -5
Ball popped out as soon as he hit the ground. Possession defined in Rule 3-2-7:
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 14, 2014 19:15:46 GMT -5
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Post by theglenn on Dec 14, 2014 19:20:51 GMT -5
Yep, thought I saw him maintain through the ground.
Still, gotta admit that its a stupid rule to compare a fumbling the ball in your own hands and pass.
And, again, at worst he regained when he crossed the goal line.
I guess my point is even if they got it "right" its dumb. XD
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Post by JAYJAYSTRIPES on Dec 14, 2014 19:55:40 GMT -5
What week are we in? I think week 14? What the sam hill is there week 15 listings doing on this site already? Is it that Hochuli fetish again? Please let us get through one week, before another one gets posted!
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 14, 2014 20:02:21 GMT -5
Sorry. We are in Week 15. Looking for my calendar.............
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Post by cj on Dec 14, 2014 20:42:02 GMT -5
Carey is right in being wrong. Parry announced there was no intentional grounding because it is a fumble. This is essentially a flag pickup, even though there is no flag. The reversal made it a pass, but then reverses the flag pickup into a flag. This is the only way this can happen, as grounding cannot be determined in replay. Similar situation: on a punt, a referee announces that there is no roughing the kicker foul, because the defense tipped the ball. You can replay whether a ball is touched/tipped or not, but you cannot review roughing the kicker. In this case, you can review the touch which reverses the flag pickup for roughing. IF there is no announcement prior to replay, then those grounding and roughing calls CANNOT be made. Pereira agrees with Mike Carey and says that should not have been called IG since there was no announcement on the field for what it's worth... If Those two are right, Parry will certainly be getting a downgrade and that is the kind of mistake that costs people playoff spots since it is administrative. I am not saying that Parry didn't announce it since I did not see the play in question, but it is possible Parry announced it and the TV crew did not beam in to Parry's mic. I don't know, interesting situation from what is a pretty hideous game. I watched that unwatchable fiasco of a game. Parry announced when the challenge flag was thrown the call on the field was a fumble and a NY recovery. He should have said before beginning his discourse with NY (and don't believe f or one second ultimately NY makes the final call according to Peter King's article) that if the play turns out to be an incomplete forward pass, it would be intentional grounding nor did I see a flag thrown on the play. Of course we'll never know what he said to Blandino when he went under the hood and looked at the play together. Blandino might have said to him, "John did you have intentional grounding?" And having seen the play, we have no way of knowing if Parry told him he had or whatever. Now also bear in mind that often today the referee will not call intentional grounding until he has discussed things with the other officials like was there a receiver in the area or did an out of the tackle box qb desperation throw reach the los. Having said that, I head Periera do an interview a few weeks ago and suggested that some penalties in the future might become subject to replay "corrections". Common sense says they got it right ultimately, that the play was an incomplete forward pass and intentional grounding and frankly I think common sense should prevail in those instances where the rules, if rigidly enforced say you can't review this. Remember the field goal a few years ago where some replay official refused to help Bill Levy I think it was in a Pitt-Balt game where the two officials under the goal posts saw a play differently. At some point, common sense has to prevail.
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Post by ak482 on Dec 14, 2014 21:58:09 GMT -5
That last call by McAulay just a friendly reminder that illegal forward pass & intentional grounding are the two post snap penalties that can trigger a 10 second runoff.
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Post by russ on Dec 14, 2014 22:33:33 GMT -5
Great OPI call by James Coleman. Terrance Williams pushed off and got seperation. Looked a lot like DPI in real time but Coleman nailed the call.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 14, 2014 22:35:14 GMT -5
Romo with a classic tuck rule...a rule that no longer exists.
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Post by zcr57 on Dec 14, 2014 22:57:40 GMT -5
There should have been multiple ejections after that melee. IMO, intentionally removing an opponent's helmet should result in an automatic ejection, which would have meant an early shower for NYJ #66.
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Post by ak482 on Dec 14, 2014 23:08:12 GMT -5
There should have been multiple ejections after that melee. IMO, intentionally removing an opponent's helmet should result in an automatic ejection, which would have meant an early shower for NYJ #66. I thought removing an opponent's helmet was an automatic ejection, going back to Lyle Alzado in the 1982 playoffs. While I didn't watch this contest, I would have to say reviewing this video & that of the safety in review, not one of the banner days for Parry & crew.
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Post by becky10 on Dec 15, 2014 0:57:55 GMT -5
#EdHochuli Explains Controversial Penalty in 49ers-Seahawks Game
To his credit, Hochuli offered one.
Here's what the longtime official told an on-site pool reporter about the personal foul he issued to 49ers linebacker Nick Moody after Moody hit Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson:
“I felt that he hit the quarterback in the chest with the hairline, and that’s a foul unless he has his face completely up and would hit it face on with the face mask. It’s a foul, and that’s why I called it.
"I felt that he hit him with the hairline. The facemask, after you hit him, the facemask comes up. But the first thing that hit him was the hairline of the helmet.
“That is still a foul when you hit the quarterback with that part of your head."
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Post by I've been warned on Dec 15, 2014 7:26:35 GMT -5
Has anyone been able to find video of Triplette announcing the Moss DQ and MP's analysis? I've seen several, but they all cut off just as MP is being brought in and Jeff is going to his mic.
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Post by mike on Dec 15, 2014 9:18:16 GMT -5
There should have been multiple ejections after that melee. IMO, intentionally removing an opponent's helmet should result in an automatic ejection, which would have meant an early shower for NYJ #66. I am willing to give John Parry a little bit of the benefit of the doubt in this scenario as his track record indicates that he is willing to eject when needed when other officials may not although it was correct and proper to eject (see Carolina Panthers v. Tampa Bay Buccaneers early on in Parry's tenure as a referee where the Carolina player was ejected for launching himself at the Tampa Bay punt returner well before the ball arrived)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 9:42:15 GMT -5
russ, a bunch of Bears' fans will see your Jay Gruden and raise you Marc Trestman! And there are many of us in South Florida that will take both your Gruden and Trestman and raise you a Joe Philbin
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