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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 25, 2011 12:15:47 GMT -5
If there is a foul on the kicking team BEFORE receiving team possession, the receiving team has to decline the foul in order to keep the ball. The kicking team is then free to have the receiving team's foul enforced. If the receiving team accepts the kicking team's foul, then it's an offset.
If the kickers and receivers foul post-possession (no matter the number of fouls) the fouls offset at the end of the kick and the receivers keep the ball.
That is how I understand it, but I am not an expert on NFL rules.
You can see why sometimes a referee might get a little flummoxed on the mic. Fouls, order of fouls, number of offenders, explain enforcement, then declare who has the ball. All the while 60,000 are screaming at you, coaches are cussing, and the cameras are on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2011 12:25:19 GMT -5
Double fouls on punts fit into 1 of 2 catagories depending on when the fouls occur. If K fouls prior to the kick and R fouls after the kick(PPS), the recieving team can elect to keep the ball after the enforcemnt of thier penalty or rekick. If both fouls occur after the kick, The fouls will offset at the spot of R's foul or the dead ball spot, whichever is worse for the reciever's. If K & R foul before the kick..offset & replay.
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Post by zebrablog on Oct 25, 2011 12:57:16 GMT -5
There is no rule on this, but the ejection might have been called because the Jacksonville player was in the grasp of the official to break up the fight. Essentially, it was a free, cheap shot, and therefore was elevated to an ejection.
It brings new meaning to "defenseless receiver."
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Post by timdaye on Oct 25, 2011 15:51:26 GMT -5
So, just we're all clear, hitting an opponent in the helmet with an open hand is an ejectionable offense. But kicking an opponent in the jewels with your cleats is not. Did I get that right?
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 25, 2011 20:27:03 GMT -5
So, just we're all clear, hitting an opponent in the helmet with an open hand is an ejectionable offense. But kicking an opponent in the jewels with your cleats is not. Did I get that right? Pereira agrees with you. From his weekly chat: Comment From Dustin
Mike: If a kick to the junk doesn't get an ejection, what does?
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Kicking in the junk is a bad thing and does merit an ejection. It was worse that what happened last night with the slap to the face. I wouldn't have ejected last night. |
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Post by hank on Oct 25, 2011 23:45:51 GMT -5
After watching Cheffers and crew I long for Tom White. This crew was not good; I am not sure what constitutes a grade of 3.85 or "solid job". I give them, without reservation, a lofted 1.75 - somewhere between:
(2): The crew or official(s) made mistakes in judgment, chopped up the game flow, didn't communicate very well, and they helped bog the game down.
(1): The crew or official had several errors, showed bad mechanics over the span of the game, were indecisive in making rulings and enforcing penalties, and really bogged the game down.
I have not seen Cheffers as much as other officials, but when I have, he seems in-over-his-head. I will take Boger in a lightyear!
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