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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 18, 2011 20:15:37 GMT -5
Woah! Tebow escapes a safety while Carey slips and falls when he had to quicky reverse his field. Looked like he was sliding into second base. Popped right back up. Video of play: bit.ly/ruH40Q
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Post by cj on Dec 18, 2011 20:32:36 GMT -5
Watch soccer....most of the time unless something really controversial has occurred many of the players shake hands with the officials.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2011 20:44:44 GMT -5
Woah! Tebow escapes a safety while Carey slips and falls when he had to quicky reverse his field. Looked like he was sliding into second base. Popped right back up. Video of play: bit.ly/ruH40QCarey is easily the smoothest of the white hats
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Post by zcr57 on Dec 18, 2011 20:50:26 GMT -5
This wasn't the best game of the season for Carey's crew. I thought they called things very one-sided in favor of the Patriots, as Denver was nailed for some ticky-tack fouls while New England was only flagged 2 or 3 times.
2.3 is the grade they get from me.
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Post by tuckerewell on Dec 18, 2011 20:50:41 GMT -5
That's interesting...When controversy exists in a major way and has an effect on NFL games I don't see players and Refs shaking hands. I can't think of any controversial games where I've seen a shake of hands between officials and players. I'd like to know of a controversial game where you saw this celebration of sportsmanship occur. You watch soccer CJ. I'm in the forum for NFL football and Officiating, not soccer. I just said I didn't like it. You could've just said "I disagree". I've officiated and I've played. I know how hard the job can be for officials and how sometimes respect is a silent nod. I know how competitive it is for players who give it all to have it taken away by something they might not have control of, not that they are right but when you are competitive and trying to win only to see victory slip away by whatever reason, you don't like to look across the field or court and see a coach or key player glad handing it with an official. Sportsmanship is for players, not officials.
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Post by zcr57 on Dec 18, 2011 20:54:32 GMT -5
Melee after a kickoff in San Diego, but no flags thrown. Cheffers' crew could have its hands full.
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Post by FredFan7 on Dec 18, 2011 21:09:10 GMT -5
Wing official gets some help from Pat Shurmer. That MIGHT be Veteri.
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Post by cj on Dec 18, 2011 21:38:56 GMT -5
That's interesting...When controversy exists in a major way and has an effect on NFL games I don't see players and Refs shaking hands. I can't think of any controversial games where I've seen a shake of hands between officials and players. I'd like to know of a controversial game where you saw this celebration of sportsmanship occur. You watch soccer CJ. I'm in the forum for NFL football and Officiating, not soccer. I just said I didn't like it. You could've just said "I disagree". I've officiated and I've played. I know how hard the job can be for officials and how sometimes respect is a silent nod. I know how competitive it is for players who give it all to have it taken away by something they might not have control of, not that they are right but when you are competitive and trying to win only to see victory slip away by whatever reason, you don't like to look across the field or court and see a coach or key player glad handing it with an official. Sportsmanship is for players, not officials. I didn't mean my remark to be taken in a nasty way...actually, I've never given it a thought to be frank. I'm sure in the pros after a game, oftentimes a player will say to an official good game...it is a fact that when I watch a soccer game, usually payers of both teams shake the hands of the officials as they leave the field. I hardly ever watch what happens after a football game (it's one of the few sports where officials and teams often start leaving the field with the clock still running down...I've seen players after taking a knee turn around and toss the ball to the referee and nod at them; I didn't know it is considered poor taste in football. So you have my apologies if you think it was a flippant remark made to make you feel stupid or something like that. Ive seen baseball umpires sometimes shake hands with a player after a milestone or osmething like that but I suppose it's not the same thing. Like I say, I've never given it a thought and probably would have had no reaction if I saw that remembering what I said about what is considered the norm in soccer..but no intent or need to be nasty.
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Post by becky10 on Dec 18, 2011 22:56:40 GMT -5
Watching Hochuli working with Corrente's crew in Chicago.
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Post by jc on Dec 19, 2011 0:53:29 GMT -5
FF7, I think the photo above of the wing official is Tom Barnes...
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Post by I've been warned on Dec 19, 2011 1:00:59 GMT -5
Brady shook hands with Carey after the final kneel down today. No back slapping, just a "good game" handshake. I don't mind it. It would be more of an issue if the official refused a handshake offered to him - would look like a snub. Now if an official went LOOKING to shake hands, back slap, etc., I would have an issue with it. Agree - officials should never seek out a player, but I have had MANY players come to me after a game and say "nice game" or "thank you." At the HS level, most coaches encourage it from a sportsmanship perspective, and I have no problem with it.
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Post by hank on Dec 19, 2011 2:31:19 GMT -5
That's interesting...When controversy exists in a major way and has an effect on NFL games I don't see players and Refs shaking hands. I can't think of any controversial games where I've seen a shake of hands between officials and players. I'd like to know of a controversial game where you saw this celebration of sportsmanship occur. You watch soccer CJ. I'm in the forum for NFL football and Officiating, not soccer. I just said I didn't like it. You could've just said "I disagree". I've officiated and I've played. I know how hard the job can be for officials and how sometimes respect is a silent nod. I know how competitive it is for players who give it all to have it taken away by something they might not have control of, not that they are right but when you are competitive and trying to win only to see victory slip away by whatever reason, you don't like to look across the field or court and see a coach or key player glad handing it with an official. Sportsmanship is for players, not officials. I didn't mean my remark to be taken in a nasty way...actually, I've never given it a thought to be frank. I'm sure in the pros after a game, oftentimes a player will say to an official good game...it is a fact that when I watch a soccer game, usually payers of both teams shake the hands of the officials as they leave the field. I hardly ever watch what happens after a football game (it's one of the few sports where officials and teams often start leaving the field with the clock still running down...I've seen players after taking a knee turn around and toss the ball to the referee and nod at them; I didn't know it is considered poor taste in football. So you have my apologies if you think it was a flippant remark made to make you feel stupid or something like that. Ive seen baseball umpires sometimes shake hands with a player after a milestone or osmething like that but I suppose it's not the same thing. Like I say, I've never given it a thought and probably would have had no reaction if I saw that remembering what I said about what is considered the norm in soccer..but no intent or need to be nasty. I didn't think much of it at the time, from what I saw, Leavy went up to Stafford to congratulate/shake his hand. He did so right in front of Palmer (as Palmer too went to congratulate/shake with Stafford) and then without acknowledging Palmer, Leavy left the field. What a tough one! Shaking hands is a healthy and positive behavior, however, in our business, when the behavior is one-sided it appears as an act of bias. This is the last thing Leavy needs after reconciling with Seattle last week.
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Post by plbell627 on Dec 19, 2011 9:39:43 GMT -5
Jerome Borger's crew missed about 4 helmet to helmet hits, They did call 2 one each way bu then didn't call any more even though you could see them. The PI call early in the game was just getting feet tangled up should not have been PI. I believe this crew is flag happy to many nit pickin calls.
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Post by ak482 on Dec 19, 2011 10:42:54 GMT -5
Boger's crew certainly had a flag fest in St. Louis, including this double dipper on Rams OL Harvey Dahl. After getting called for holding, Dahl expresses a little disagreement with the flag (warning: audible adult language) and gets dinged for unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2011 11:09:49 GMT -5
Boger's crew certainly had a flag fest in St. Louis, including this double dipper on Rams OL Harvey Dahl. After getting called for holding, Dahl expresses a little disagreement with the flag (warning: audible adult language) and gets dinged for unsportsmanlike conduct. they missed the PI and 2 helmet hits I saw, but other than that, the flags were warrented, also...the flag for the f-bomb was spot on. Obviously not an issue if the mic is on, but since it was on, he's gotta ding him for it
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