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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2011 18:54:13 GMT -5
It was a 3 point game with 2:30 left. No way someone gives them self up that early. Even Tony Dungy is giving the league an earful and he never does that.
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Post by mike on Oct 2, 2011 19:04:52 GMT -5
Rule 7 Section 4 Article 1 (a): How to give yourself up
An official shall declare dead ball and the down ended:
(a) when a runner is out of bounds or declares himself down by falling to the ground and makes no effort to advance
Someone should post a YouTube and I wonder if it can be said that Cruz "gave himself up." I am not so sure, but that wording makes it more ambiguous
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 2, 2011 19:04:53 GMT -5
If the receiver did what cj described, it sounds like the only thing reviewable is down by contact or not. Did Bergman rule down by contact? That is more excusable than "giving himself up."
Who orginally ruled "giving himself up?" Boger or Bergman?
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 2, 2011 19:06:41 GMT -5
Mark Baltz:  |
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Post by mike on Oct 2, 2011 19:07:16 GMT -5
Bergman was the official right on top of the play, but Boger made the announcement
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Post by cj on Oct 2, 2011 19:13:37 GMT -5
Fred...I'm sure you know down by contact is now reviewable and if that had been the call, the recovery was immediate and it would be reviewable and Arizona ball. The Giants knew it was going to cost them the game and ran up to try to run the play but the red flag came in. At that point the officials conferred and then Boger came up with the runner gave himself up voluntarily call. Meanwhile they have Periera on explaining it would be Arizona ball and then when Boger made the announcement they played it back again and Periera came out and said pure and simple it was a terrible call as indeed it was.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 2, 2011 19:30:27 GMT -5
Yes, if they ruled down by contact the review would be appropriate and the Cardinals could have gotten the ball back - had Boger not ruled down by contact.
It sounds like after the red flag came out, they then got together for the giving himself up call. I would guess the covering official(s) then gave Boger that info and he then made the announcement.
Sheesh. Sounds like a real mess..................
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2011 19:31:14 GMT -5
More like a CYA call.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 2, 2011 19:40:34 GMT -5
Good start to the SNF game by Carey's crew. Good communication on that first intentional grounding call of Flacco.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 2, 2011 19:43:03 GMT -5
Brown mic'd for sound effects for TV. Those are two huge mics on the brim of his hat.
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 2, 2011 19:59:29 GMT -5
Busy start to the night for Carey's crew. But it looks like they're calling what needs to be called.
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Post by I've been warned on Oct 2, 2011 20:24:20 GMT -5
Busy start to the night for Carey's crew. But it looks like they're calling what needs to be called. They got paid per flag last week in Chicago too, but got most all of them right. |
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 2, 2011 20:38:23 GMT -5
EXCELLENT offensive facemask call against Plaxico Burress!
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Post by mike on Oct 2, 2011 20:47:21 GMT -5
Good catch by NBC on the missed contact to the plant leg of the punter
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Post by FredFan7 on Oct 2, 2011 20:57:21 GMT -5
Good catch by NBC on the missed contact to the plant leg of the punter Yes. Probably should have been called. |
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