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Post by zcr57 on Jun 3, 2012 9:33:02 GMT -5
When was the last time an MLB Umpire was released for performance, not counting anything involving the 1999 resignation issues. I don't think it's ever happened in my lifetime. It seems to me that once an umpire gets promoted to full-time status, he has the same job security as a U.S. Supreme Court justice.
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Post by JugglingReferee on Jun 4, 2012 9:18:34 GMT -5
So the only facts I can gather are that Davidson had to be near the Yankees dugout to make a call.
While he's there, a person who is not the Manager took it upon himself to complain about balls and strikes.
So who is allowed to b**ch about b&s? The Manager? And the bench coach? And the pitching coach? And the hitting coach? And ....... who else? When/Where does it stop?
Are Umpires supposed to be walked on in the name of "managing the game?"
I ask because baseball isn't as big in Canada as other sports, and the U<-->Mgr relationship is the most unknown to me among all sports.
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Post by cj on Jun 4, 2012 9:39:51 GMT -5
So the only facts I can gather are that Davidson had to be near the Yankees dugout to make a call. While he's there, a person who is not the Manager took it upon himself to complain about balls and strikes. So who is allowed to b**ch about b&s? The Manager? And the bench coach? And the pitching coach? And the hitting coach? And ....... who else? When/Where does it stop? Are Umpires supposed to be walked on in the name of "managing the game?" I ask because baseball isn't as big in Canada as other sports, and the U<-->Mgr relationship is the most unknown to me among all sports. Look, there's always yapping going on back and forth despite the rules about balls and strikes. The catcher is always talking to the umpire and the guiding rule, usually, is that it's okay (of course no questioning the ump's heritage or things like that) as long as the catcher doesn't turn around and show him up. Same thing, for the most part, with yapping from the dugout. I've seen games on television, with the low down mics today, where Davidson has yelled into a dugout, "Shut up." He clearly has rabbit ears and a temper as witness the suspension just a week or two ago. It is well know in baseball circles just how arrogant Davidson is and I used the arbitrator's decision, although more thana decade ago, as an example. If as reported what Long yelled at him was, "What are you looking at," the ejection was not warranted. Nobody would have been any the wiser. It's really, in this case, just the person involved as well as the act that is so deplorable, at least in my opinion.
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Post by timdaye on Jun 4, 2012 15:59:48 GMT -5
So the only facts I can gather are that Davidson had to be near the Yankees dugout to make a call. While he's there, a person who is not the Manager took it upon himself to complain about balls and strikes. So who is allowed to b**ch about b&s? The Manager? And the bench coach? And the pitching coach? And the hitting coach? And ....... who else? When/Where does it stop? Are Umpires supposed to be walked on in the name of "managing the game?" I ask because baseball isn't as big in Canada as other sports, and the U<-->Mgr relationship is the most unknown to me among all sports. Look, there's always yapping going on back and forth despite the rules about balls and strikes. The catcher is always talking to the umpire and the guiding rule, usually, is that it's okay (of course no questioning the ump's heritage or things like that) as long as the catcher doesn't turn around and show him up. Same thing, for the most part, with yapping from the dugout. I've seen games on television, with the low down mics today, where Davidson has yelled into a dugout, "Shut up." He clearly has rabbit ears and a temper as witness the suspension just a week or two ago. It is well know in baseball circles just how arrogant Davidson is and I used the arbitrator's decision, although more thana decade ago, as an example. If as reported what Long yelled at him was, "What are you looking at," the ejection was not warranted. Nobody would have been any the wiser. It's really, in this case, just the person involved as well as the act that is so deplorable, at least in my opinion. Do ya suppose the guys on Bob's crew ever take him aside and say "Hey Bob! Knock this s$%t off! You're making us ALL look worse!" Everyone knows his name now (not good) and he has been suspended. All this seems to have no effect on him. Maybe we can take up a collection, send it to him and then he can buy himself a clue.
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Post by nyasablue on Jun 4, 2012 16:46:08 GMT -5
I am a Yankee fan, but Long clearly took the opportunity to say SOMEthing to Balkin' Bob - and I can bet that is more than 'where are you looking?' - most than likely a few $&*&$'s included. Davidson does what just about every OTHER umpire would do - which is eject the jerk screaming at him. He WALKS AWAY - And Girardi coming charging after him - and getting in HIS face, acting like a 5 year - slamming his cap, and just generally acting like a jerk. And THAT merits ejection.
Sure looks like Davidson was trying his best to keep calm and not overreact to all the crap.
Remember too, that Long is under a LOT of pressure, as the Yankees are really stinking up the joint with runners in scoring position.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jun 5, 2012 8:55:59 GMT -5
Sure looks like Davidson was trying his best to keep calm and not overreact to all the crap. . I agree with all of your other comments but I want to focus on this one. It seems like Davidson has taken his suspension to heart. No screaming, no getting in faces, just calmly talking. Looks like MLB wasn't upset at who Davidson is ejecting, it was upset at Davidson channeling his inner Shag Crawford after the ejection.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jun 5, 2012 9:00:43 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Jun 5, 2012 9:04:26 GMT -5
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Post by FredFan7 on Jun 5, 2012 9:08:23 GMT -5
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Post by howard63 on Jun 5, 2012 20:05:50 GMT -5
Bob Davidson not with Jerry Layne's crew tonight at Fenway. David Rackley filling in for Davidson at second base.
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Post by BTFS Admin on Jun 6, 2012 22:59:09 GMT -5
Definitely safe at the plate. Torrealba didn't apply the tag before the runner touched the plate. McClelland got that one right.
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Post by FredFan7 on Jun 7, 2012 9:16:07 GMT -5
When was the last time an MLB Umpire was released for performance, not counting anything involving the 1999 resignation issues. I don't think it's ever happened in my lifetime. It seems to me that once an umpire gets promoted to full-time status, he has the same job security as a U.S. Supreme Court justice. The AAA fill in system weeds out umpires before they get in as full timers. Look over previous rosters and there are several umpires (Colon, Klemm, etc.) who were AAA fill ins and never got a full time spot. The weeding process happens at that level and not at the full time level. Now, should full timers get weeded out if their skills slip? That's a discussion for another thread......
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Post by ak482 on Jun 9, 2012 0:09:16 GMT -5
Doug Eddings tosses Kevin Youkilis after a called third strike. Pitch right on the low borderline, not sure if that pitch was being called all night. mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22125877Side note: unusual to see Eddings (or any umpire) take off the hat while giving the heave.
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Post by howard63 on Jun 9, 2012 8:53:57 GMT -5
Brian Runge becomes one of the few umpires to be behind the plate for two no-hitters in the same season in the same ballpark after last night's six-pitcher gem by the Mariners over the Dodgers. Of course, he also had the plate when Philip Humber of the White Sox pitched a perfect game at Safeco Field.
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Post by zcr57 on Jun 10, 2012 22:06:07 GMT -5
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